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Posted on 10/11/10 at 2:44 pm to ScoopAndScore
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almost every coach in the country would disagree with you
You have taken a poll on the issue from every coach?
It is a play that can go either way. The safe and responsible thing at that point in the game is to kick the PAT.
However if you make it you are a genius, if you don't your an idiot.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 2:45 pm to josh336
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Anyone who doesn't think the right call was to go for 2 there, well, I don't pay much attention to them. You put percentages on those kind of things...and percentages say the opposition isn't gonna score 3 times in the 4th quarter.
Wisconsin went for 2 (and didn't convert) with 6:00 left in the 4th to go up by 27 instead of 26. The coaches just look at that damn chart and do whatever it says.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 2:47 pm to Korkstand
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Wisconsin went for 2 (and didn't convert) with 6:00 left in the 4th to go up by 27 instead of 26. The coaches just look at that damn chart and do whatever it says.
One coach did that, 1. But yeah, go ahead and say they all do it.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 2:53 pm to josh336
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If you make it, you can be tied driving down the field needing a field goal to win. The risk is worth the reward
So, the 40% of the time that you convert, you have the lead you want. The other 60% of the time you swing the momentum to the other team, and at the same time give them the option to play the point differential game with a 2pt conversion of their own later on.
Obviously a 14 point lead is more solid than 13, but 13 is also more solid than 12, especially with a lot of game left.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 2:56 pm to ScoopAndScore
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wow, you are so wrong
not to mention nearly the entire 4th quarter was still remaining.
Hannigriff and Gordy both said it was the correct "football call".
Posted on 10/11/10 at 2:57 pm to Korkstand
Did you think there was more than a very small chance that Florida would score 3 times in less than 14 minutes after what had happened up until that point of the game? Be honest.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 2:58 pm to Korkstand
It was sarcasm. I thought it was the right move at the time. LSU's D was dominant. It took a kickoff to get Florida back in it.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 2:58 pm to Rex
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Two point play was the correct call in the fourth quarter.
I disagree. I know what the chart says and all, but I believe you kick the PAT unless you are the team down by two and HAVE to go for it.
Like a previous poster stated, missing the 2-pt conversion is a bit of a downer for your team and gives the other team a bit of a lift.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 3:07 pm to Tiger Ryno
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when Jefferson is back there confusion usually ensues
Posted on 10/11/10 at 3:17 pm to josh336
quote:i agree with the call, there was no way florida was going to sustain 3 scoring drives on us in 14 minutes. They ran a kickoff back, which hasnt happened to LSU since what 2000? You get the 2 point conversion and everything is on florida to score 2 tds in 14 minutes on our defense
Did you think there was more than a very small chance that Florida would score 3 times in less than 14 minutes after what had happened up until that point of the game? Be honest.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 3:23 pm to josh336
They didn't have to score 3 times for it to be an issue.
They scored twice. After the second score, they had the distinct advantage of no risk, with only the possibility of reward, because WE took the risk.
Same shite happened at Bama last year, and I had the same arguments over it then. I know there are those that feel 4th quarter, always go for 2. I think it's premature with the whole quarter to play, and it's obvious there will be multiple possessions remaining in the game for both teams.
No hindsight here. This has been my stance, and I've had this argument with coaches on more than one occasion.
They scored twice. After the second score, they had the distinct advantage of no risk, with only the possibility of reward, because WE took the risk.
Same shite happened at Bama last year, and I had the same arguments over it then. I know there are those that feel 4th quarter, always go for 2. I think it's premature with the whole quarter to play, and it's obvious there will be multiple possessions remaining in the game for both teams.
No hindsight here. This has been my stance, and I've had this argument with coaches on more than one occasion.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 4:13 pm to josh336
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Did you think there was more than a very small chance that Florida would score 3 times in less than 14 minutes after what had happened up until that point of the game? Be honest.
Honestly no, but that's only half the argument. So look at it this way... say you kick the xp to go up 13, and then Florida scores once to pull within 6. If LSU kicks a field goal on their next possession to go up 9, it's back to a 2 possession game. Instead you would go for 2 and miss (60% of the time) for a 12 point lead, then Florida scores to pull within 5. At this point a field goal keeps it a 1 score game. Why do that to yourself?
Posted on 10/11/10 at 4:17 pm to graychef
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But then they don't fake, which led to the TD. Jasper is forced to kick a 53-yard FG to win it.
Not necessarily true. The game would have unfolded differently. LSU may have tried to drive to set up for a FG which could have led to entirely different playcalling on the last drive.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 4:20 pm to Korkstand
Yes. That is the second part of the argument and you can expect crickets.
ETA: I was saving that one for a response, but you stole my thunder.
ETA: I was saving that one for a response, but you stole my thunder.
This post was edited on 10/11/10 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 10/11/10 at 5:29 pm to wahoocs
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Yes. That is the second part of the argument and you can expect crickets.
ETA: I was saving that one for a response, but you stole my thunder.
Hah sorry, but you were right about the crickets
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