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re: Tulane Fans
Posted on 12/30/10 at 4:06 pm to RealityTiger
Posted on 12/30/10 at 4:06 pm to RealityTiger
Loyola is about on par with UNO academically. You must have met extreme outliers.
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Posted on 12/30/10 at 4:10 pm to RealityTiger
It's true. Look at their admissions standards and their US News ranking. Loyola is not a good school
Posted on 12/30/10 at 4:16 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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Loyola is not a good school
Absolutely. As far as the Catholic schools go, it's terrible, especially in comparison to the other Loyola's. The New Orleans Review is a highly respected journal though.
I don't get people hating on Tulane here. It might have been an old rivalry, but literally no one cares about it anymore. And for those talking shite about Tulane academics, that's just ridiculous.
Posted on 12/30/10 at 4:17 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Where on campus is Tulane planning on putting this retractable roof stadium? Where is there room? I'm not doubting, but unless they plan on tearing stuff down where could they put it?
Posted on 12/30/10 at 4:18 pm to tigercat70
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No - MOST toolame students are not from Louisiana, but rather rich kids from the northeast. In NO WAY does toolame represent New Orleans. Any ignorant toolame fans (in fact, ALL toolame fans are ignorant) who kid themselves thinking toolame is "our" team are just plain stupid and uninformed.
Wow.
I see what you did there.
I'm awed at your cleverness.
You said "toolame" as a play on words with "Tulane."
I've never seen that before.
Did you think that up all by yourself?
Posted on 12/30/10 at 4:30 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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It's true. Look at their admissions standards and their US News ranking. Loyola is not a good school
Yeah, Loyola's law school is about on-par with Southern's--third or fourth tier.
Man, you would think a venerable Catholic University in uptown New Orleans would be on par academically with Notre Dame--but Loyola's academics suck
TTF, I'm sure you notice, like I do, every time a thread like this gets started, there are myths perpetuated.
The first one is that Tulane's academics are nothing to brag about--Tulane is on the list of the top sixty research institutions in the country--'nuff said.
To the guy who drew the conclusion about Tulane's, LSU's and Loyola's relative rankings because he talked to a Loyola grad that sounded "smart" ... wow, is all I can say.
The second is that Tulane and Loyola students generally hate each other--Loyola students are in the Tulane band and from my observations in the three years my daughter has been at Tulane, the Tulane-Loyola dynamic is a good one.
The third myth is Tulane is, as a previous poster said, all "rich" kids having a good time on daddy's money. I assure you, with the entrance requirements, any Tulane student is "for real" academically. That of course does not mean there won't be some idiot frat boys or sorority girls with their noses in the air, but on the whole, a Tulane student is the real thing academically. I know my daughter wouldn't be there if it weren't for scholarships--I couldn't afford to send her otherwise.
Really, you'll find more of the "spoiled rich kid" just wasting their college years--living on daddy paying bills and not giving a shite about classes--at LSU than Tulane.
All that being said, the old Tulane alums make themselves look silly with this "LSU hate." Tulane administration and athletics have made a series of poor decisions in the last 50 years to put Tulane football in the shitter.
But you're right, TTF. Most Tulane students are either LSU fans or couldn't give a shite about LSU.
I really wish LSU-Tulane was as intense and competitive as Alabama-Auburn. It was that way long ago, and would be a great thing for the state.
I'm an LSU fan and a Tulane parent. It's the best of both worlds, and I'm happy.
This post was edited on 12/30/10 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:42 am to timlan2057
Well said Timlan.
As a Tulane fan and former student, I may be a rare breed being from Louisiana and living here currently. Although I had a large distaste for LSU due to a)disproportion of media and overall support of LSU and b)bandwagon fans irritate the hell out of me regardless of sport or team, I have two brothers who attend LSU and I now have trouble rooting against LSU. I see myself as the unbiased and distant observer of the football program, and I wish LSU success academically. However, to say that LSU is even close to on par with Tulane academically right now is ridiculous. I've seen first hand the 'rigors' of the some of the LSU undergrad courses, and some of them are an absolute joke...on par with some courses I've seen at LATech. It may be a hard one to swallow for a lot of you, but with the recent budget cuts, class sizes have gotten larger and the quality has gone down. And if the trend continues, I'd be very worried. Now all this is not to say that LSU doesn't have outstanding select programs. I'm sure they do. But overall, the Tulane:LSU comparison is not really substantial.
I simply don't know what to say from the athletic side of things. I want Tulane to do well, but I cannot contribute to the Tulane athletic fund without a FIRM stance of support from the administration. This can be in the form of a new on-campus stadium, new big hit coach, etc. I just don't see the firm support from the administration, and that has grown the ire of myself and MANY other Tulane fans. It's like they are comfortable with sub-par seasons and a crap product. And don't tell me it's impossible to turn around this program. If June Jones and SMU can do it, Tulane can certainly do it as well.
Random as hell. First, Tulane:LSU is not even close to UVA:VT. While VPISU is indeed the bigger school (student population wise) and is a Land Grant university like LSU, the percentage of supporters of UVA within Virginia far outweighs the percentage of Tulane supporters in Louisiana. I'd say it's something like:
Louisiana- LSU 75% Tulane 5% Others 20%
Virginia - VT 50% UVA 35% 15% Others
UVA is also in a BCS conference and has had runs of recent success (largely in the 90's during the Welsh era) and spats of recent success (Gator Bowl appearance in 07).
This is all to say that while the perceptions of fanbases are similar (Upper class, snooty vs. agriculture, football), the support for the small, more exclusive university is definitely still there. UVA is just as much of a 'flagship' as VT if not more.
As a Tulane fan and former student, I may be a rare breed being from Louisiana and living here currently. Although I had a large distaste for LSU due to a)disproportion of media and overall support of LSU and b)bandwagon fans irritate the hell out of me regardless of sport or team, I have two brothers who attend LSU and I now have trouble rooting against LSU. I see myself as the unbiased and distant observer of the football program, and I wish LSU success academically. However, to say that LSU is even close to on par with Tulane academically right now is ridiculous. I've seen first hand the 'rigors' of the some of the LSU undergrad courses, and some of them are an absolute joke...on par with some courses I've seen at LATech. It may be a hard one to swallow for a lot of you, but with the recent budget cuts, class sizes have gotten larger and the quality has gone down. And if the trend continues, I'd be very worried. Now all this is not to say that LSU doesn't have outstanding select programs. I'm sure they do. But overall, the Tulane:LSU comparison is not really substantial.
I simply don't know what to say from the athletic side of things. I want Tulane to do well, but I cannot contribute to the Tulane athletic fund without a FIRM stance of support from the administration. This can be in the form of a new on-campus stadium, new big hit coach, etc. I just don't see the firm support from the administration, and that has grown the ire of myself and MANY other Tulane fans. It's like they are comfortable with sub-par seasons and a crap product. And don't tell me it's impossible to turn around this program. If June Jones and SMU can do it, Tulane can certainly do it as well.
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Virginia is very similar to Louisiana in this situation. Everybody in Virginia is a Virginia Tech fan - it is the big state school. UVA, where I went for undergrad, has a small (relative to the size of the school and alumni base) fanbase that cares more about getting drunk and having a good time than watching a game. Don't get me wrong, Virginia Tech fans care a lot about getting drunk, but they pay attention at football games. VT is a football school.
UVA football, like Tulane football, can be tough to follow. Who likes to see their team lose more than they win?
When I picked a grad school, I wanted to go to a fun school with a good football program, which is one of the reasons I went to LSU.
Random as hell. First, Tulane:LSU is not even close to UVA:VT. While VPISU is indeed the bigger school (student population wise) and is a Land Grant university like LSU, the percentage of supporters of UVA within Virginia far outweighs the percentage of Tulane supporters in Louisiana. I'd say it's something like:
Louisiana- LSU 75% Tulane 5% Others 20%
Virginia - VT 50% UVA 35% 15% Others
UVA is also in a BCS conference and has had runs of recent success (largely in the 90's during the Welsh era) and spats of recent success (Gator Bowl appearance in 07).
This is all to say that while the perceptions of fanbases are similar (Upper class, snooty vs. agriculture, football), the support for the small, more exclusive university is definitely still there. UVA is just as much of a 'flagship' as VT if not more.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:17 am to DlineU
Back in the day, the LSU TU game was a rivalry. TU would pack 80,000 plus in old TU stadium for that game.
TU's real demise in football coincided with the Superdome. Instead of building a smaller stadium on campus, TU went to the Dome. The Uptown neighbors got tired of the traffic, trash, intoxication which resulted from the TU, Saints and SuperBowl games as well as the concerts.
TU's real demise in football coincided with the Superdome. Instead of building a smaller stadium on campus, TU went to the Dome. The Uptown neighbors got tired of the traffic, trash, intoxication which resulted from the TU, Saints and SuperBowl games as well as the concerts.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:18 am to DlineU
2001 Super Regionals. Suck it Tigahs.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:42 am to Chimlim
From YOGW forum
LINK
They are a "project team" looking for handouts from others to build them up as opposed to doing it themselves.
I hate the greenies and the above quote is the biggest reason why.
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Maybe we can join the Big XII? They're gonna have a couple opening after next year. With BCS money we could do a lot of great things.
LINK
They are a "project team" looking for handouts from others to build them up as opposed to doing it themselves.
I hate the greenies and the above quote is the biggest reason why.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:46 am to los angeles tiger
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They are a "project team" looking for handouts from others to build them up as opposed to doing it themselves.
wow .. Just wow ....
Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:53 am to threeputt
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wow .. Just wow ....
Look at what TCU has done and what SMU is doing and then look at Tulane. TCU has built itself up and the fan base. SMU is finally rising from the ashes of the death penalty. Both have done this on their own and have built those programs. Tulane spent many years relying on the LSU game to support their program. They want others to come to New Orleans and fill the dome with the other schools fans to pay for their program. They should instead focus on getting a good product on the field that will help build a base in New Orleans. Get some consistency.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 11:04 am to DeafJam73
Southeastern > McNeese
Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:40 pm to DlineU
Little brother syndrome. Even smart kids aren't immune to this psychological phenomenon.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:06 pm to DlineU
Most of the ones I know either cheer for LSU or don't waste their time thinking about us. Most of them have very good jobs and or run companies and their own businesses. They have shite to do. Most of our fans or the ones on this board worrying about what Tulane thinks rather are unemployed or lazy and live with their parents posting something like 44 thousand posts or more on this board
Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:37 pm to DeeHorton
I'm a Tulane fan (alum and former letterman) and I am completely indifferent to what LSU does when they are not playing Tulane.
I understand the economics of the two teams not playing annually in football (under the current system). However, both teams should play every year in Men's Basketball. Both programs play so many meaningless non-conference basketball games currently...
However, I could not imagine a worse city to spend any
extended time in than Baton Rouge. The city has no soul or
character.
With that off my chest, LSU fans do have the best Internet
forum (this site). I also like LSU's system of rewarding their actual students/future alums with the chance to earn priority points to get tickets over non-students.
I don't hate an entire fan base because of it, but I don't get how someone could root so blindly for a University when they or their parents never spent any time attending class there. Especially in the age of the TOPS Scholarship where college
has become available to anyone with the grades. It would be like me raving about how one fraternity was the best on campus, when I personally was never in a fraternity.
I understand the economics of the two teams not playing annually in football (under the current system). However, both teams should play every year in Men's Basketball. Both programs play so many meaningless non-conference basketball games currently...
However, I could not imagine a worse city to spend any
extended time in than Baton Rouge. The city has no soul or
character.
With that off my chest, LSU fans do have the best Internet
forum (this site). I also like LSU's system of rewarding their actual students/future alums with the chance to earn priority points to get tickets over non-students.
I don't hate an entire fan base because of it, but I don't get how someone could root so blindly for a University when they or their parents never spent any time attending class there. Especially in the age of the TOPS Scholarship where college
has become available to anyone with the grades. It would be like me raving about how one fraternity was the best on campus, when I personally was never in a fraternity.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:46 pm to UncleLester
Could not disagree with you more on BTR I know its no LA, NYC or even NOLA but ithas good night life, more than adequate dining, great sports, the state capitol and a good local community (much better people than NOLA as far as local actually because you don't have all the meritless snobbery of the NOLA uptown divide and their ridiculous onsession with what high school someone went too - talk about irrelevant). Also NOLA is a short drive away. BTR is not the most vibrant college town in the US no doubt but it better than most. Is there an SEC school better? Maybe Vandy with Nashville offers some big city stuff we don't that in some eyes put it ahead. Athens has a good music secne but little else so at best its even. Oxford, Starkville, Columbia, etcm all suck arse
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:05 pm to Paul Allen
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Paul Allen
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:21 pm to XQ11
By 1973, LSU was dominating the rivalry, but Tulane Stadium was still packed for the game, and Tulane still had most of New Orleans behind it.
And ... John Ferguson was a helluva'n announcer.
LSU at Tulane 1973
And ... John Ferguson was a helluva'n announcer.
LSU at Tulane 1973
Posted on 1/2/11 at 5:41 pm to timlan2057
Incredible standing room only crowd that night.
Would put the crowd noise that night up against any game I have attended at Tiger Stadium.
Much less "crowd control" with police, etc back then and Plenty more alcohol at the game(s).
Would put the crowd noise that night up against any game I have attended at Tiger Stadium.
Much less "crowd control" with police, etc back then and Plenty more alcohol at the game(s).
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