re: Tubbys firing puts EXTREME pressure on Miles

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Tubs was a good coach--those boosters responsible for ousting him, IMO, are the real problem at Auburn--NOT Tubs.

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Bingo!

There is a strong opinion among many (inside and outside the Auburn nation) that Coach Tuberville's firing has its roots in the "Jetgate" incident. The powerful people who tried (and failed) to oust him back then are more concerned about exacting revenge than the success of the program. When he was winning and beating Alabama, they couldn't touch him. But the 7-5 season and 36-0 loss in the Iron Bowl was what they have been waiting for to get rid of him.

Coach Bryant once told his fellow coaches "don't worry about making friends; concentrate on winning; if you win, your enemies can't hurt you; if you lose, your friends can't help you" (paraphrased). That seems to be true in Coach Tuberville's case.

One must look no further than this week's SECCG for why so many SEC HCs have been jettisoned and others on short leashes.

Despite being graded primarily on their own bodies of work, SEC HCs must answer to their ADs, whom see an Urban Meyer looking for his 2nd BCS title in just 4 years in the SEC-East. Nick Saban looking for his 2nd BCS title in his 7th SEC-West season, and at his second school, of which he won it all in his 4th at LSU, and is contending for another in just his 2nd at Bama.

Fulmer's shortcomings versus Fla & UGa buried him, that and a sub-mendoza SEC mark over these last three years. Tubby despite one-for-the-thumb, has been owned by Saban in-state since arriving, and even with a win over NS last year, the handwriting was on the wall, and all Aubies were getting nervous.

Then there is LSU's two recent BCS crystals, which has it's hand in so many SEC-West HC changes, as schools are forced to make moves as to attempt gain some momentum in recruiting, and to get HCs that have a clean slate(Dooley? Leach?) or even competetive ones versus LSU/Miles(Nutt, Saban, Petrino)..

Saban and Meyer are considered top five HCs in all of NCAA Footballdom..with Carroll, Stoops, Brown, Tressell,etc..choose your five.

if miles were to be fired next year if our record was 7-5 i wouid question who was really making the decisions at lsu.

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ok so lets say miles do go 7-5 next year. If we fire a coach 2 years removed from a national championship and he had winning seasons in those 2 years, do you actually think we could attract a top tier coach?

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That really depends on whether it was 7-5 disaster like it was this year, or a competitive 7-5...If we're still talking this time next year about what a poorly coached shitty team we've got, than Les needs to go..The money LSU is able to pay, and being in the SEC will always allow LSU to attain a top coach.

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skillet 7-5 is 7-5 i dont give a shite how you spin it. it has come to the point at lsu that this is below expectation.

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I agree, 7-5 would completely suck, but if the 5 losses are competitive games, Miles won't be in trouble of losing his job next year. Another 7-5 the year after, and he's definitely gone.

Tubs situation has always been on the skids when that whole deal went down with petrino at UL a few years back this shouldn't come as a surprise. look how long the Alabama progam has been in the crapper 6 coaches and ten years later they have a good season. Auburn will be fine tubbs is better off for getting away from that place.

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I also think Alleva is way smarter than the other AD's in the SEC

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What has he done to make you think that? Just asking? Not being sarcastic for once.

Tideidiot: Miles won a national championship

without a doubt, in the event that Les didn't already feel the heat, the fire is blazen now. I don't think Les has taken anything for granted, but the writing is on the wall. I know we aren't AU, but the same will happen with another mediocre year.

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Volvagia

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Spot on dude.

This really all bodes well for us. Les likely makes a couple of good hires now. 2 Perenial powers in the SEC should have down years next year: Tenn and AU. So we just need to take care of business with Fla. @ home. Truly I think Miles rebounds big next year.

I'd agree it puts ANY college football coach in the state of mind where they must win and win often....or it's curtains for them!

Auburn shot themselves in the foot if they indeed forced Tubby out the door....I've heard it was a mutual agreement.