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re: TT fans class and classless at the same time
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:38 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:38 am to ProjectP2294
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They're also from fricking Lubbock, life's hard for them.
how dare you, Lubbock is the finest one red light town i've ever passed through in my life.
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:40 am to RedRaider
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How is lining up your 11 vs my 11 gaining any type of unfair "advantage"?
You are trying to line up your 11 vs your opponents 10.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:43 am to RedRaider
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This is the disconnect....right here. The DEFENSE is allowed to put their select 11 players on the field at the start of the game, and every subsequent change of possession.....right? OFFENSE does the same. Any time the offense substitutes, the defense is given the same opportunity. The umpire stands over the ball to insure it is not put into play until defensive substitutions are completed. How can this possibly give the offense an advantage?
There is a rule that says the game is stopped to allow for injured players to substitute.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:44 am to RedRaider
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You keep citing player safety. Likewise, so do I. If a player is truly injured....steps should be taken to remove him from the game for a sufficient period of time to promote proper "healing". A series for the first injury....a quarter or longer for chronic conditions.
Redraider, you keep saying this, but moneyg has already debunked it, and I side with him totally. In the normal course of a game, players are routinely injured in a way that degrades them for 10 to 20 seconds. Against a normal offense they walk these injuries off or head to the sidelines for a substitution.
I like the fast paced offense, and I think your idea for a mandatory "healing" period has merit. It can't be a ridiculous amount of time, though. How about, if a player's injury forces an offense to be delayed he sits the test of the series, or four plays, whichever is less? The team on offense would have to be responsible for monitoring this because it would put too much pressure on the refs. Each team could throw challenge flags with a 15 yard penalty resulting for an incorrect challenge or an illegal re-entry.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:55 am to RedRaider
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Playing at a fast tempo isn't a gimmick. it's designed to exploit the other teams weaknesses. Like running fast with the ball. You wouldn't advocate a speed limit for ball carriers.....would you?
Ya...its a gimmick. For the most part, this is only used by teams with inferior talent.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:57 am to TGK4LSU
Chip Kelly brought it to the NFL and it did not work. All NFL teams have top level talent. Don't need gimmick football to win. Just good coaching and solid execution.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:00 am to Superbonics
Well here's the Obligatory "gimmick" labeling of any offense other than LSU's
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:10 am to 7thWardTiger
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What does TTU do that's a gimmick
the "hurry up" "up tempo" tactic is a gimmick used by teams with, for the most part, inferior talent. Thanks for the compliment & your demonstration of lack of football knowledge. Why does Nick Saban hate gimmick offenses? Because he always has superior talent & these types of offenses somewhat neutralized his advantage.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:12 am to biglego
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Well here's the Obligatory "gimmick" labeling of any offense other than LSU's
ya...because in 1950 ( LSU current offense), today's offenses would be considered a gimmick.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:20 am to moneyg
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There is a rule that says the game is stopped to allow for injured players to substitute.
And I take no issue with this. There are also rules which address delay of the game. Should they be enforced also?
No objective observer of college football can deny certain teams employ the "injury" time out to give their defense a rest against fast paced offenses. Coaches in your league have acknowledged they use it, as well as advocating against this type of offensive approach. Even the TV announcers speak to the situation, with a wink and a nod....of course. Saw it several times last night in the aggy v L'ville game.
Interesting observation: the "injury" bug seems to bite mostly after a big gain by a fast offense, and said offense is lined up quickly to run another play. Rarely is a defensive player "injured" after the play results in a sack, or a tackle for a loss. Coincidence?
The wide receiver for Arkansas, Jared Cornelius......BROKE HIS ARM in the game against TECH this year. He jogged all the way across the field with it. No extended stoppage of play. No drama.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:38 am to TGK4LSU
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...inferior talent...
How is lining up 5 wide outs running different patterns...."inferior"? The offense is designed to put the ball in the end zone. Score touchdowns. The forward pass is a legal play in football. Lots of teams do it. It is also deemed acceptable to snap the football and begin a play, once the ball is placed at the line of scrimmage and the play clock is started. Any artificial alteration of this...is at least poor sportsmanship. And violates the rules of the game.
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....these types of offenses somewhat neutralized his advantage.
Don't all coaches attempt to "neutralize" the other teams advantages? Maybe we oughta' just concede the championships to Alabama in the sec!, Ohio State in the Big 10, OU can be the designated BIG XII champs. Doesn't matter.....pick one for the PAC XII and the ACC.
Rotate the National Champion designation each year, and let ND have it every once in a while.
Or, we could just play the games...within the rules....and see what happens.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:47 am to TGK4LSU
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the "hurry up" "up tempo" tactic is a gimmick used by teams with, for the most part, inferior talent.
Shame on them for trying to win.
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Why does Nick Saban hate gimmick offenses? Because he always has superior talent & these types of offenses somewhat neutralized his advantage.
Ya, the team with the most talent should take offense with people trying to neutralize that talent. It's just not right.
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Thanks for the compliment & your demonstration of lack of football knowledge.
Thanks for one of the dumbest posts of 2015.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:55 am to moneyg
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No. That's not the reason. It's because you don't want a player on the field that less effective than he normally would be due to a minor injury.
Texas Tech (and other high pace offenses) are trying to force teams to play with hobbled players. It's an advantage that doesn't exist normally as a player would either "walk it off" or, if needed, hobble to the sidelines for a substitute.
It would be idiotic for a coaching staff to not change the instructions to players on these minor injuries. "If you are less than 100%...stay down. TT isn't going to allow us to run someone in for you otherwise. You won't have time to walk it off and test it."
Your crying is because you didn't foresee other coaches doing this very obvious thing and thus can't get the advantage of playing against hobbled players.
That is the most logical explanation I've read for staying down when banged up when playing a quick run offense.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:56 am to Superbonics
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...Chip Kelly brought it to the NFL and it did not work....
Not sure where you're going with this.
If pro ball is your thing....cool. Doesn't hold the same interest for me as the college game.
Vince Young, RG III and Johnny Football were all exciting players to watch in college. Two of 'em won the Heisman, VY was runner up. None of 'em have much of a pro resume.
Any of their clones could be on my college team.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:57 am to Superbonics
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Chip Kelly brought it to the NFL and it did not work. All NFL teams have top level talent. Don't need gimmick football to win. Just good coaching and solid execution.
He went 10-6 twice with Nick Foles and Sanchise
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:58 am to Salmon
LSU isn't big on the faking injuries game.
Regardless, the hurry up offense is lame so they shouldn't bitch when teams use lame techniques (faking injuries) to stop them.
Regardless, the hurry up offense is lame so they shouldn't bitch when teams use lame techniques (faking injuries) to stop them.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:01 am to TheCaterpillar
I live in big 12 country and its widely known that tech is the trash of the big 12 as far as fans
It's kind of the party/redneck anyone gets in school. Plus the locals aren't much to brag about either. Combine those two and there is your fanbase
Raider rash is a real thing
It's kind of the party/redneck anyone gets in school. Plus the locals aren't much to brag about either. Combine those two and there is your fanbase
Raider rash is a real thing
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:02 am to RedRaider
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Your perspective RE; Lubbock vs. Austin is interesting....considering Austin is more like Kalifournya, than Texas.
Austin sounds like a great place.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:08 am to dagrippa
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...the hurry up offense is lame...
Yet, the top 3 college offenses in the country run it, along with most of the top 20 collegiate offenses in the nation.
Lame? OK.
I'm blown away by the general acceptance of cheating (faking injuries to facilitate a time out) some here advocate.
How do y'all feel about off sides? Should the "lame" team be allowed this advantage? Should the smaller/slower/less athletic player be allowed to "hold" his opponent?
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