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re: Tremendous job by Coach O and the staff last night

Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108781 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:16 pm to
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if that was what you really did you would be right. 

Well that's exactly what I did. Someone said that the coach wasn't at fault for not having good kickers, I disagreed and Ree had a hissy fit.
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But you take it like he is a failure as a coach if he makes a mistake.

I did no such thing. He made a mistake last year and has done an outstanding job this year. I never said differntly.
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Is Saban also a fricked up coach because he had some seasons with crappy field goal kickers.

He's 100% to blame for the field goal kicking woes he's had in the past. Who else would be at fault other than the head coach?
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But you take it to other levels. 

I did not at all. I was accused of hating the coach because I thought he made a mistake and defended my position.
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You imply or say Coach Orgeron is lacking as a coach for types of situations that every coach has issues with. But with Orgeron, with you it is always his fault as though he is somehow lacking in the ability to be a good coach. 

I treat Coach O the same as any coach in the country at any level. Head coaches are responsible for everything that happens on the field. This isn't a new concept. How am I saying he can't be a good coach? I just started a thread congratulating him on doing an outstanding job. Just because I think he messed up last year doesn't mean I'm saying he can't be successful in the future. That's ridiculous.
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or do you continue with this 'eating crow' thread while doing the exact opposite?

You're acting like my position has changed somehow. I thought last year was disappointing, but that he deserves the 3 years like any other coach would get and that he's done a fantastic job this year.


Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108781 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:18 pm to
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The fact that someone like you roams around freely frightens me. You need to be on medication.

It's funny shite. The guys can't seperate saying someone made a mistake last season from applauding the job they are doing presently. Sure makes for a good distraction from my fantasy football loss today.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:18 pm to
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I've been saying all along that this team was going to surprise a lot of people. When I mentioned the moves O made in the offseason I was shouted down. This is why I say that negas can't be objective.


There was ZERO objective reason to think this team was going to be good/great. It was all hopes and wishes.

Look, I'm glad you were right, but let's not act like you had some objective leg to stand on.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:21 pm to
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Ree...you can fuq around with your semantics all day but TL is right about one thing....the kicking last year was bad PERIOD.


If you read the thread you will see that Ree is the one that actually said that the kicking game cost us a couple games last season.


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O was the HC...it falls in his lap as much as that may chap your azz. Sorry.


it falls in his lap because everything falls in the HC's lap. But to act like other coaches don't have various sorts of issues every season and that it points to some failure in his ability to be a good HC is not a reasonable stance to take. Even if he wasn't confident in the field goal kicking situation going into the 2017 season doesn't mean he could have done a lot to fix it at that point. He may have known it was an issue but was unable to find a Cole Tracy or someone who he knew would be better than what we had at that point.


But really the point of this thread isn't the field goal kicking situation in 2017 and who was or should have been aware of the problem and how it could have been addressed, but it is supposed to be about Tiger Lunatic coming on here and eating crow about coach O or apparently not eating crow about coach O. Really TL you don't have to eat crow but why start a thread saying you are eating crow?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:24 pm to
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here was ZERO objective reason to think this team was going to be good/great. It was all hopes and wishes.



Plenty of people thought coach E did a better job with Cams offense in 2016 than even Cam had ever done and there fore had reason to be objective in reasoning he would be a pretty good OC. Also saw a lot of things in the 2016 and 2017 seasons for them to believe the team would be pretty good in 2018.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:25 pm to



every season is hopes and dreams because you don't know which way the ball is going to bounce. We could have easily lost to Auburn but the thing was that we were in a position towards the end of the game to win that game, which we did.

It's really all just percentages. Coach O and staff have done a good job of increasing our percentages, in other words, of putting the team in position to win games. It's really just a process.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 8:29 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108781 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:27 pm to
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Really TL you don't have to eat crow but why start a thread saying you are eating crow? 

This is a very serious question, have you been drinking today? Are you on pain killers or been smoking weed or something? I've explained this at least 10 times.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:28 pm to
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But really the point of this thread isn't the field goal kicking situation in 2017 and who was or should have been aware of the problem and how it could have been addressed, but it is supposed to be about Tiger Lunatic coming on here and eating crow


That is what has become so damn funny about this thread. The guy in his "crow eating" thread can't eat crow for his own damn crow eating thread.

You don't get to see shite like this for free every day. Classic shite right here.

I hope he starts at least one thread tomorrow.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108781 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:30 pm to
Moron
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:31 pm to
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Plenty of people thought coach E did a better job with Cams offense in 2016 than even Cam had ever done and there fore had reason to be objective in reasoning he would be a pretty good OC. Also saw a lot of things in the 2016 and 2017 seasons for them to believe the team would be pretty good in 2018.


It was a brand new offense, not just implementing Cam's offense. It was a new OL. It was either Brennan or a transfer with 60 career passes.

People thought the defense would be great and the offense was a complete question mark. Anyone thinking 10-2 or better was simply being optimistic, not objective.
Posted by tigah paw
Gordo Al
Member since Jun 2015
1403 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:31 pm to
Coach E did a better job right away.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:31 pm to
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Plenty of people thought coach E did a better job with Cams offense in 2016 than even Cam had ever done and there fore had reason to be objective in reasoning he would be a pretty good OC.


How do we know that Ensminger's a good OC?

This team has thrived because of Aranda and the defense. Without him we'd be in dire straits.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 8:32 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:33 pm to
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I said before the season that Cregg would have to be a Miracle Worker to get anything out of this bunch.

So far he has been, considering all the injuries and shuffling. (Combined with the talent level)

I'd love to see what he could do with SEC Championship caliber OL's. You have to recruit em for that to happen. Start in Burrowland Ohio...….
A) I'd say he's been working some minor miracles so far. No water into wine, just box wine into a good Cabernet.

B) Considering what he was working with, I say he had them more prepared to start the season than Grimes did usually. Grimes always seemed to be using the first 4 games as a camp extension. I judge this alot by my best guess at protection calls and missed assignments.

C)
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I'd love to see what he could do with SEC Championship caliber OL's. You have to recruit em for that to happen. Start in Burrowland Ohio...….
agreed! Golden opportunity, use it.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33651 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:36 pm to
Great win last night. Love seeing LSU take care of business vs an inferior opponent. Even bad ole miss teams have given LSU trouble in the past.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:39 pm to
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Moron


That's it?

Like I start a crow eating thread and can't hide my true feelings for the idiotic thread I started without going off the reservation.

Sorry you suck man. I didn't come up with the brilliant idea to start this moronic thread.

YOU DID.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:41 pm to
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How do we know that Ensminger's a good OC?


I know you can't see it.


I see it. I was able to see it 2016 and I've also been able to see it this season as well. That you don't see it doesn't surprise me.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108781 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:42 pm to
Nah. You're a moron because you're all bent out of shape and accusing me of being this ridiculous hater because I said the team is much better than I thought they would be, that the head coach fixed a mistake that he made last year and that he's doing a fantastic job.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:45 pm to
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I know you can't see it.


I see it. I was able to see it 2016 and I've also been able to see it this season as well. That you don't see it doesn't surprise me.



Why don't you help me to see it, oh wise one?

What objective information supports that he's a good OC, relative to his peers of course?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:47 pm to
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I see it. I was able to see it 2016 and I've also been able to see it this season as well. That you don't see it doesn't surprise me.



Pretty impressive that you could see it in 2016 but Orgeron couldn't and hired another OC.
Posted by Eternally Undefeated
Member since Aug 2008
935 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:47 pm to
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9th in total offense and 5th in defense. LSU penalties kept 2 drive alive and turned it over 3 times where one was called back due to a penalty. Their coach isn’t A smart coach as he should have gone for it twice on fourth down. He sucks and their undisciplined play kept a lot of drives alive with VERY VERY BAD penalties at bad times.


Rather than simply agree with the premise that our coaches did well last night or just keep your mouth shut, you want everybody to know that you have complaints.

It amazes me the number of "fans" we have on here who feel compelled to find something to complain about if things don't go perfectly well in every aspect of their perfect little lives.
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