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re: "Tough to beat a team twice"
Posted on 12/21/11 at 12:32 pm to Roux-Roux
Posted on 12/21/11 at 12:32 pm to Roux-Roux
I have never understood this conventional wisdom. I see no evidence that it is true. Thanks for giving evidence that it is false. The games are independent events.
I see LSU beating 'Bama in a manner that should remove all doubt in every rational mind that the Tigers are the better team.

I see LSU beating 'Bama in a manner that should remove all doubt in every rational mind that the Tigers are the better team.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 12:44 pm to blueridgeTiger
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What talk? I haven't heard a single Tiger fan say that. It's going to be a real pleasure to beat Bama twice. We're looking forward to that!
Its not what you say directly its the heated discussion that we shouldn't be there with statements like: it was scripted by ESPN, OkSt is more deserving, you should have to win your conference, all that shite. When you know damn well most of you would take the other side of the argument if LSU had lost the first game. That's code for I don't want to play Bama again. Why else go to all the trouble?
Posted on 12/21/11 at 12:53 pm to bama1989
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Its not what you say directly its the heated discussion that we shouldn't be there with statements like: it was scripted by ESPN, OkSt is more deserving, you should have to win your conference, all that shite. When you know damn well most of you would take the other side of the argument if LSU had lost the first game. That's code for I don't want to play Bama again. Why else go to all the trouble?
I guess, if it helps you sleep at night, keep on going with it.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 1:17 pm to bama1989
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Its not what you say directly its the heated discussion that we shouldn't be there with statements like: it was scripted by ESPN, OkSt is more deserving, you should have to win your conference, all that shite. When you know damn well most of you would take the other side of the argument if LSU had lost the first game. That's code for I don't want to play Bama again. Why else go to all the trouble?
Obviously I don't speak for all LSU fans, but the reason I don't want to play Bama again has nothing to do with the likelihood of LSU winning the National Championship.
The reason I don't want to play Bama again is based on the likelihood of Bama winning the National Championship.
I hate Alabama- if we were playing OSU, then Bama's chances at winning a National Championship this year would be zero. That would make me happy.
By us being matched up with Bama, the Tide's chances of winning the National Championship are substantially increased. This displeases me.
The fact that Bama was able to get to that point with a 1984 BYU-style resume, going 1-1 against the only top-20 teams they played (both at home) and without winning its division, much less conference, only makes it worse.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 1:20 pm to bama1989
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Its not what you say directly its the heated discussion that we shouldn't be there with statements like: it was scripted by ESPN, OkSt is more deserving, you should have to win your conference, all that shite. When you know damn well most of you would take the other side of the argument if LSU had lost the first game. That's code for I don't want to play Bama again. Why else go to all the trouble?
quote:...and that crap you posted is non-code for stereotypical gumptard tripe completely infused with blind arrogant delusion. Gumprant.
bama1989
Posted on 12/21/11 at 1:30 pm to bama1989
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Its not what you say directly its the heated discussion that we shouldn't be there with statements like: it was scripted by ESPN, OkSt is more deserving, you should have to win your conference, all that shite
again, please show me where any coaches or players said any of this.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:05 pm to Roux-Roux
I think the first game favors the home team then when the rematch goes to a neutral site the team that lost the first matchup has a better chance.
In our situation we won on the road and the rematch game is at home....We got this game boys and girls!
In our situation we won on the road and the rematch game is at home....We got this game boys and girls!
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:06 pm to deSandman
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Obviously I don't speak for all LSU fans, but the reason I don't want to play Bama again has nothing to do with the likelihood of LSU winning the National Championship.
The reason I don't want to play Bama again is based on the likelihood of Bama winning the National Championship.
I hate Alabama- if we were playing OSU, then Bama's chances at winning a National Championship this year would be zero. That would make me happy.
Let me guess. You're a democrat. You only can have happiness if everyone else is equally miserable. You exemplify the old tale about a bucket of crawfish. If one starts making progress getting out of the bucket, the others gang up and pull him back in.
I know you don't want any advice from a gump, but I'd recommend you base your life on emotions other than hatred. Life's too short to live with your bowels continually clenched.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:15 pm to arlo
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Let me guess. You're a democrat.
I'm not but I agree with most of what he said
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I'd recommend you base your life on emotions other than hatred. Life's too short to live with your bowels continually clenched.
Thanks but for me anyway, sports hate doesn't apply to the rest of my life. I didn't want Bama or Auburn to win the the N, but its not like I lose sleep over it
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:20 pm to arlo
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you base your life on emotions other than hatred
Like etitlement, delusion, constant nostalgia for a dead guy from Arkansas?
This post was edited on 12/21/11 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:23 pm to arlo
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Let me guess. You're a democrat. You only can have happiness if everyone else is equally miserable. You exemplify the old tale about a bucket of crawfish. If one starts making progress getting out of the bucket, the others gang up and pull him back in.
We're talking about a game where kids mainly from one region attempt to move a piece of inflated leather across a white line painted on some grass, while a group of kids mainly from another region try to stop them. Hate was a strong word, but is it really that crazy that I dislike seeing the red team succeed?
And your bucket analogy makes no sense - the BCS is designed for one, and only one, "crawfish" to get out of the bucket...everyone else is irrelevant. This is a zero-sum transaction...LSU and Alabama cannot both "succeed."
If you're looking to make that analogy relevant for this season, what bothers me is that someone put on some gloves and reached down and pulled up my least favorite crawfish, knocked down all of the others, and now I get to listen to that crawfish brag about how awesome it is at climbing.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:24 pm to deSandman
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If you're looking to make that analogy relevant for this season, what bothers me is that someone put on some gloves and reached down and pulled up my least favorite crawfish, knocked down all of the others, and now I get to listen to that crawfish brag about how awesome it is at climbing.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:26 pm to deSandman
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If you're looking to make that analogy relevant for this season, what bothers me is that someone put on some gloves and reached down and pulled up my least favorite crawfish, knocked down all of the others, and now I get to listen to that crawfish brag about how awesome it is at climbing
This.
Based on this Gump's assumption, democrats are trying to prevent everyone from succeeding unless everyone succeeds.
So, my assumption is this:
The Gump in question must be a Republican. Republicans feel the only fair way to succeed is by being chosen based not on hard work, skill, or progress, but because you are most liked by people in power.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:35 pm to SLTiger29
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The Gump in question must be a Republican.
Yep.
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Republicans feel the only fair way to succeed is by being chosen based not on hard work, skill, or progress, but because you are most liked by people in power.
Ask GE and Solyndra about having friends in power.
I think most republicans would agree to just work hard, prepare, and play whoever is on the schedule. There's a thread on the secrant now where a corndog thinks LSU should be awarded the title. Talk about feeling entitled.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:39 pm to deSandman
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If you're looking to make that analogy relevant for this season, what bothers me is that someone put on some gloves and reached down and pulled up my least favorite crawfish, knocked down all of the others, and now I get to listen to that crawfish brag about how awesome it is at climbing.
Don't care about who your least favorite crawfish is. The fact is the two biggest crawfish are going to be playing for the title on 1/9.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 2:40 pm to Roux-Roux
It is tough to win 2 games from one team because of the revenge factor. This LSU team is tough enough to beat Bama twice. 
Posted on 12/21/11 at 3:09 pm to TenTex
The key to any rematch is making adjustments. I'm sure Bama will make some......but I think LSU is even better at making adjustments.....especially in-game" adjustments. Without the adjustments they made vs. Bama on November 5th and vs. Arky and UGA, this could be a 3-loss team.
Yeah, I like our chances.
Yeah, I like our chances.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 3:12 pm to arlo
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Don't care about who your least favorite crawfish is. The fact is the two biggest crawfish are going to be playing for the title on 1/9.
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If you're looking to make that analogy relevant for this season, what bothers me is that someone put on some gloves and reached down and pulled up my least favorite crawfish, knocked down all of the others, and now I get to listen to that crawfish brag about how awesome it is at climbing.
And there we go.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 3:32 pm to Roux-Roux
for some reason, this has always been said relative to the pro game, where teams play one another twice per season...not sure whether it is true there or not, though...
very interesting info....
very interesting info....
Posted on 12/21/11 at 3:33 pm to barry
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Its a 1 in 4 chance to flip a coin and have it land on heads two times in a row.
Not when it's already landed on heads once. In your statistics example you ignored the fact that we already know the outcome of the first game. They are independent variables.
Of course all of that is 100% irrelevant anyway b/c a football game isn't a coin flip with 50/50 odds.
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