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re: TJ over Myles change my mind.....

Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:38 am to
Posted by ShaneTheMaster
Tampa, FL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:38 am to
And the best player should play. Alabama and Clemson during their runs have started freshman QBs - because they play the best player.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66186 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:39 am to
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Myles, with the “full playbook” managed a whopping 27 points in his first start. And an L





Now do the part where we were entirely one dimensional, dropped a ton of passes, and were in a dogfight the entire game.

Also, throw in that State is the best defense in the conference.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66186 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:40 am to
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Biggest difference is that TJ is more decisive. No sacks.


He rarely faced pressure at all

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And he wasn’t just throwing quick passes, he threw deep, too


When?
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:43 am to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60706 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:44 am to
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And the best player should play. Alabama and Clemson during their runs have started freshman QBs - because they play the best player.


They replaced struggling players (Saban also pulled Tua for Hurts once). Brennan hasn’t struggled in fact just to the opposite. If the defense gives up 40 points teams tend to lose
Posted by ShaneTheMaster
Tampa, FL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:44 am to
And when he did get pressure, he was more capable of actually avoiding it.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3988 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:50 am to
Well I could definitely see the argument that with TJ we just blew out the best team we have played all year and with Brennan we lost to Mizzou. Intangibles matter, team chemistry matter, lets see how the Auburn game goes.
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:50 am to
My thing is I think it’s too early for judgement. Let’s give TJ another test with Auburn and then have a clearer pitcher to make a very important decision the direction of LSU football. Myles was improving and was actually tied with Mac Jones as top SEC QB in rating. The kid waited 3 years, nobody does that anymore. I think we at least owe him another week. No question TJ has talent and looked about as comfortable in the pocket as I’ve seen since....well....Burrow. But it’s still just one game. Let’s see what happens after Auburn.
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
2125 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:52 am to
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Why the frick do you think he’s throwing the ball just as good as Myles? You’re blind. Even some of his short throws were thrown way behind. His pocket presence is better, but he had a running game to take pressure off. frick man you guys are such idiots


Sometimes you read posts like this and it makes you wonder if there any hope for our fan base.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:53 am to
It was very exciting for sure. His poise was impressive along w everything else. His ceiling is super high. But let’s not forget Myles has made history so far. And the way the offensive staff finally leaned on our stud Backs was huge for TJ. The usc D just couldn’t pin their ears back. CWM mentions that in PC. I’m convinced that LSU is 3-1 at worst imo if they would have Slowed the game down and leaned on the run game from day one. U don’t think MB lights USC up w the way our backs were performing? With Myles E wants to sling jt all over the place and sprinkle in the run. But last night the run game actually looked strategically planned and not just sprinkled in to keep a D honest. I hope tney learned something regardless of experience at the starting qb.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32774 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:54 am to
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If TJ can continuously throw the ball as good as Myles, why should Myles see the field again??


So how many big play deep balls did he hit last night, because we know Myles can do that very well? Just checking.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32774 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:58 am to
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Get ready for everyone to downgrade Finley by saying the team played too well last night.


It’s not fricking BINARY. Finley played great last night. Yes, he got a lot of help from the O Line and the run game. We still haven’t seen whether or not Finley can do some things that are critical for him to go from being a great backup who will have a real shot at being the starter in the future to being the starter right now.

ALL of these things can be true at the same time. Binary thinking is the product of a small mind that lacks creativity.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15767 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:58 am to
You can spin the debate any way you want. If Myles is equal to TJ why wouldn’t you go with the guy who has 3+ years of game planning experience and has experienced hostile environments before?
Posted by chambers538
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Oct 2009
639 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:58 am to
Why did the run game do so well though? Could it be because of all the sustained drives and the tiring of the defense? The threat of the QB to run maybe? There's a whole lot more to it than just the run game showing up. All aspects of the game played off the energy of the QB play. If you go 0 for 10 on third down and have 3 and outs often, your run game will suffer too. Doesn't matter how many big plays you hit on. We saw what consistency does to our team last night.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66186 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:00 am to
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Why did the run game do so well though?


Because the offensive line dominated the LOS last night.
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
2125 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:03 am to
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So how many big play deep balls did he hit last night, because we know Myles can do that very well? Just checking


Y’all really need to get off this. We changed game plans in the 3rd quarter and just tried to pound the ball so you really only saw 1 half of play from Finley. He had a number of deep throws and only one of them was completed. He also converted on 3rd down like a champ and was very successful running the football. He brings another dimension to the RPO and his quick decision making is what eliminates the blitz. He was almost perfect in the red zone and in third down.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32774 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:03 am to
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All aspects of the game played off the energy of the QB play. If you go 0 for 10 on third down and have 3 and outs often, your run game will suffer too.


Go back and actually watch the Mizzou game. If the WRs, TEs and Emery catch balls that hit them dead in the fricking hands, we convert at least 4 of those 10. EVERYONE has to execute. Good or bad, it isn’t all on the QB. Any fan who thinks it is doesn’t know shite about football.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:09 am
Posted by chambers538
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Oct 2009
639 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:06 am to
If we had gone 3 and out on the first few series, would we still have dominated the LOS? Prolly not, because the defensive line would have gained confidence and played at a higher level. A 16 play drive to start the game helps with getting the momentum started and tiring the defense mentally and physically.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32774 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:07 am to
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and was very successful running the football.


Finley had less than 30 yards rushing. He does provide more of an RPO threat, but not one the defense really has to fear. Johnson is the real running threat.

Finley is a better option for QB sneaks and short yardage. I’ll give you that, but this isn’t enough to crown him the starter yet. Not after one game.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66186 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:07 am to
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He brings another dimension to the RPO


What? Does he hand it off better? I saw him wait too long on one and cause a fumble.

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his quick decision making is what eliminates the blitz


He rarely ever got blitzed at all so not sure where you got this.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:08 am
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