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re: TJ opens up the RPO portion of the offense
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:39 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:39 am to Lester Earl
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Which has zero relevancy to what an RPO
Your words. Which dont makes sense. Whatttttttt!???????
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:41 am to misey94
Totally agree with you, and you said it better and more detailed than I ever could. To me his running ability was the cherry on top, essentially the college version of what if Peyton Manning had some running ability.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:41 am to NOSA
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The only stats I can find day he ran for 188 yards in his entire high school career, yet SC game planned for his running ability apparently.
If he starts vs Bama, do you think they will bother to put a spy on him other than in 3rd and short or goal line? With his high school stats and last night’s, I doubt it. Let’s not base our starting QB decisions on USC’s poor game planning.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:42 am to 5Alive
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The RPO has definitely expanded to the QBs ability to pull and hit that end, hence when Brennan does it he takes off running but the thing is nobody respects his ability to run.
The RPO isn't designed for the QB to run the ball.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:42 am to LSU Fan 90812
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The RPO has definitely expanded to the QBs ability to pull and hit that end, hence when Brennan does it he takes off running but the thing is nobody respects his ability to run. Thank fricking god someone gets it!
Right!!
The key is what the lineman and wr’s are doing. If the wr’s are running routes, and the lineman are run blocking its an RPO. Simple.
Some of these plays that Earl thinks are zone reads are RPO’s, and you can tell, because the Wr’s are on quick routes like slants, etc.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:43 am to TigerLunatik
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The RPO isn't designed for the QB to run the ball.
Yes. It. Does.
The QB freezes the defense with his read. He can run it himself, give it to the back, or hit a pass.
Wtf.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:44 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:43 am to TigerLunatik
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The RPO isn't designed for the QB to run the ball.
The idea that a play can be designed to have a run/pass option, roll out, then a secondary read for a QB pass/run option is impossible to you?
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:45 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:44 am to P bean
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The RPO isn't designed for the QB to run the ball.
Yes. It. Does.
Thank you for confirming what everyone has been telling you for 7 pages.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:48 am to LSU Fan 90812
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The idea that a play can be designed to have a run/pass option, roll out, then a secondary read for a QB pass/run option is impossible to you?
The quarterback can run on any dropback. That doesn't mean that the play is designed for the QB to run.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:48 am to LSU Fan 90812
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If you run a zone read play (in which the linemen look like they're run blocking) and a RPO play back to back. To the defense, it presents three viable options of it being the running back getting the ball, the quarterback keeping it on a read, or him pulling it down.
I think you absolutely need a dual threat QB in CFB these days
Still doesn’t mean you lump all the plays into one. They certainly are distinct & distinguishable, you are just attempting to save some face now.
TJ Finley was running zone read last night. Had nothing to do with an RPO
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:48 am to P bean
Do you realize one of the easiest blocks for a WR is to simply run the DB off by running a route?
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:49 am to TigerLunatik
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The RPO isn't designed for the QB to run the ball.
Unless it's a Zone Read RPO.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:49 am to Lester Earl
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TJ Finley was running zone read last night. Had nothing to do with an RPO
LE, i'm not trying to hate on you.
I'm trying to figure out why you think that a Zone Read play doesn't work in concert with an RPO play. And how if a ZR play is having success or being run to keep people honest, it might not make the succeeding RPO play more successful.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:50 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:51 am to P bean
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TJ was excellent at running the QB fake/keeper.
weird, because from what I got from watching the game was how slow and not very good runner Finley is, especially for a black guy. But he is a dam good QB however despite that he really isn't a very dangerous runner. Definitely not on the level of runner of Burrows and about kind of like Brennan, though Brennan may even be more fleet of foot.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:52 am to LSU Fan 90812
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The only stats I can find day he ran for 188 yards in his entire high school career, yet SC game planned for his running ability apparently.
Yet we have no idea if he can hit deep throws consistently with accuracy. Didn’t see that last night. We don’t know if he can master the entire offense in the next three weeks before Bama. We also don’t know if he can play this cool, calm and collected on the road in the SEC when the O Line and run game aren’t clicking.
We have seen Brennan have to do all of the above. He struggled with the weight on his shoulders vs State, but he played great on the road vs Vandy and under the pressure of carrying the offense on the road vs Mizzou.
Until I see Finley do all this successfully, why should he be the starter? Because he can run short yardage and throw a nice slant? That’s not enough. He may get a chance to prove himself on some of these points next week. Until then, all I can say is that we have 3 incomplete QBs. Finley is just as incomplete as the other two as it stands right now. Combined with better O Line play, Brennan’s downfield big play threat is worth more points than a few yards here and there.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:56 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:52 am to TigerLunatik
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The quarterback can run on any dropback. That doesn't mean that the play is designed for the QB to run.
So on a RPO bootleg near the endzone with a tight end running across the field late.
What would you call that?
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:53 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:53 am to LSU Fan 90812
Because running an RPO does not require your QB to be mobile
Your brother, as described in the OP, enjoys the look the zone read brings. He wrongly mislabeled it as an RPO.
The QBs ability to run definitely brings another wrinkle. I preached as such this offseason. You don’t really win titles anymore without a mobile QB.
Your brother, as described in the OP, enjoys the look the zone read brings. He wrongly mislabeled it as an RPO.
The QBs ability to run definitely brings another wrinkle. I preached as such this offseason. You don’t really win titles anymore without a mobile QB.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:55 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:54 am to LSU Fan 90812
A play that LSU didn't run last night.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:54 am to LSU Fan 90812
Zone read and RPO may look they same but they are reading different people on those plays. Zone read is usually the back side DE. RPO is usually the strong safety. They can go hand in hand together but it’s either or. Ensminger is going to ask a QB to read both on the same play
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:55 am to Lester Earl
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The QBs ability to run definitely brings another wrinkle. I preached as such this offseason. He don’t really win titles anymore without a mobile QB.
Albeit a small sample size, but from what I’ve seen so far this year, Johnson has the best wheels.
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