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re: TJ opens up the RPO portion of the offense
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:26 am to TigerLunatik
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:26 am to TigerLunatik
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This thread is fricking gold.
It’s like the stupidity of tRant encapsulated into one thread.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:27 am to P bean
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josh allen, etc are killing it with the threat of running it,
ZONE READ not RPO
Lmao
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:28 am to P bean
It’s not read option. When that term is used it shows you don’t know much about X and O’s. It’s either zone read, power read or RPO. Problem is most idiots on this board doesn’t know the difference. Just like when this board called it toss dive. That immediately told me they don’t know football. It was toss power. Big difference in all of them.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:28 am to Lester Earl
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You think an RPO is a zone read so of course you are confused
Hahhahhahahahahahaha what??????????
I dont even know who or what you are arguing.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:28 am to LSU Fan 90812
quote:Well yeah, a QB can scramble on any pass play, but the R in RPO is talking about the running back. Can you admit that you had RPO and read option confused so we can end this stupid argument?
RPO. Can mean run, pass OR QB decides in the flow of the play after the initial reads. The number of times burrow ran a delay draw after faking a handoff, looking into defensive backfield and seeing them turn and run are too plentiful to count.
You also talked about army and navy running the read option, which just shows how ignorant you are. They run a triple option wishbone
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:28 am to P bean
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Incorrect. Watch some football today and reassess - jackson, josh allen, etc are killing it with the threat of running it, on RPO’s, dropbacks, etc.
Both of you keep doing this. This isn't the original argument.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:29 am to P bean
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Incorrect. Watch some football today and reassess - jackson, josh allen, etc are killing it with the threat of running it, on RPO’s, dropbacks, etc.
Nick Foles won Super Bowl MVP by running the RPO. The point is you do not have to be a mobile QB to operate the concept.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:30 am to P bean
Pretty sure what he's saying is unlike Read Options, a QBs mobility is not the main factor.
Although a mobile QB makes RPOs way more deadly, in its basic form, an RPO is a decision to hand off to an RB or throw to a WR.
Although a mobile QB makes RPOs way more deadly, in its basic form, an RPO is a decision to hand off to an RB or throw to a WR.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:30 am to P bean
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dont even know who or what you are arguing.
I know you don’t.
Because you think a zone read is an RPO
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:30 am to Peepdip
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triple option wishbone
This a version of the read option.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:30 am to P bean
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dont even know who or what you are arguing.
You dont even know what you're arguing.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:30 am to NOSA
quote:Yeah we never said that the QB can’t scramble on an RPO, it’s just that that’s not what the play is designed around.
This isn't the original argument.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:31 am to Lester Earl
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At lesser your brother is pretending to understand what it is now after 4 pages.
i've always understood it, because it is not difficult. Ya'll are acting like Zone Reads and RPO's exist within a vacuum. When in fact they are used in sequence and harmony. The zone read is incorporated with the RPO.
If you run a zone read play (in which the linemen look like they're run blocking) and a RPO play back to back. To the defense, it presents three viable options of it being the running back getting the ball, the quarterback keeping it on a read, or him pulling it down.
Literally two years ago, we'd run play actions that took a century to develop and with the defense running downhill at the qb because they knew it was a pass.
So like I said from jump street: a zone read PLAY works within an RPO philosophy. They are not mutually exclusive.
These offenses have evolved and use and borrow concepts from previous successes.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:34 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:32 am to Peepdip
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Yeah we never said that the QB can’t scramble on an RPO, it’s just that that’s not what the play is designed around.
Is it possible that the threat of that mobility or player running might make the RPO easier to run?
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:34 am to LSU Fan 90812
The RPO has definitely expanded to the QBs ability to pull and hit that end, hence when Brennan does it he takes off running but the thing is nobody respects his ability to run.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:35 am to NOSA
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Also I think Burrow's running gets misinterpreted by some. Yeah he was pretty good at it here and there, but the running game in general was open because we had #1 overall pick at QB and a juggernaut passing game
With Burrow, it was his overall effectiveness. If you played a spy on him to contain him, he would beat coverage where there was a 1 on 1. If you played man in short yardage, he would see it and run decisively to get the needed yards. It was about the fact that he could read and break down anything you threw at him. Burrow’s running threat was that he could kill you deep if you pressured him by throwing on the run and that he knew exactly when to pull it and gash you for easy running yards upfield. He always knew what to do and when to do it.
Let’s just be honest. NONE of our QBs this year have this versatility. Extremely few do. All three have limitations. And as well as Finley played last night, I think he deserves to play in short yardage and some red zone situations going forward. He may not be a huge yardage threat as a runner, but his size and strength proved to be an asset in short yardage situations last night. It would be smart to use that going forward, no matter what.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:44 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:36 am to LSU Fan 90812
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our GIF is a zone read not an RPO
Actually its not. Its an RPO. The WR runs a pass route. The line fires off. The QB couldve pulled off of the run and looked for a WR.
On a read option the Wr’s block right away.
On a play action the lineman pass block.
On this play the line fired off to run block. The Wr ran a quick hit pass route and looked back. The qb can hand it off, run it, or fire a pop pass - RPO.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:36 am to LSU Fan 90812
It is clear the offense simplified last night. It is also clear the o line dominated. If brennan gets that level of push in the basic counter runs brennan would look even more amazing.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:36 am to misey94
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Let’s just be honest. NONE of our QBs this year have this versatility. Extremely few do. All three have limitations. And as well as Finley played last night, I think he deserves to play in short yardage and some red zone situations going forward. He may be a huge yardage threat as a runner, but his size and strength proved to be an asset in short yardage situations last night. It would be smart to use that going forward, no matter what.
So it's almost like this variability is a good thing that keeps defense from keying on exactly what we want to do?
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:37 am to 5Alive
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The RPO has definitely expanded to the QBs ability to pull and hit that end, hence when Brennan does it he takes off running but the thing is nobody respects his ability to run.
Thank fricking god someone gets it!
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