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re: Time for Tommy Moffitt to go
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:19 pm to bayouboo
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:19 pm to bayouboo
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It isn’t Moffitt’s job to teach tackling and containment.
That's true. However, it IS his job to make sure that your team is in shape and conditioned enough to make it through the season. Yes, injuries will happen. But when you have consistent injuries before the season even begins and see players get pushed around like rag dolls in the first game of the season, that is a development issue.
I saw teams last week manhandle and run through guys. The same teams we play later in the year. And then I looked at our team and thought there's no way in hell our team can compete with that if nothing changes.
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:20 pm to T
I’ve been saying this for awhile. Either he no longer knows what he’s doing or he isn’t holding the players accountable for their workouts because if UCLA can push LSU around, every SEC team damn sure will.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:20 pm to T
I can listen to an argument about replacing Moffitt but….
Do you trust O to replace him?
If there’s going to be a change at that position, it should come if O doesn’t make it.
Do you trust O to replace him?
If there’s going to be a change at that position, it should come if O doesn’t make it.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:22 pm to T
Does anyone feel like no hard feelings but he is stale and his time is done like PM as the baseball coach???
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:26 pm to saintslsupels
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have no idea why people want to blame the strength and conditioning coach. I didn't realize Tommy Moffitt was calling playing and teaching how to tackle you frickin idiot. Our team photo looks like a bodybuilding competition.
Football shape is so very different than workout shape. There is only so much you can do workout wise to get them prepared for a game, especially on the lines. You absolutely must put hands on people to get accustomed to it. You can MAYBE get in football shape without physical practices if you are a WR or CB, but any position that requires you to block/shed blocks routinely must have man on man practices.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:29 pm to T
idk what happened..he used to be one of the best, but the industry must have passed him by. There is no excuse for UCLA being more physical than us.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:33 pm to scott8811
Physicality for football isn’t forged in the weight room. It’s forged on the practice field where you have to line up across from an opponent and win. Period. Strength and conditioning can help you improve your chances of winning but the technique, will, and effort required come from spring, summer, and fall practices. Not weight room sessions.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:49 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Physicality for football isn’t forged in the weight room. It’s forged on the practice field where you have to line up across from an opponent and win. Period. Strength and conditioning can help you improve your chances of winning but the technique, will, and effort required come from spring, summer, and fall practices. Not weight room sessions.
I get what you're saying, but we had an OL admit that they were worn out...that's conditioning. Conditioning does fall on him.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:52 pm to tigergirl26
If you look at elite teams OL…they are built different…Bamas OL are all built/ shaped exactly the same….like they were drawn up and produced
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:53 pm to scott8811
What I’m saying is the type of conditioning O Linemen need stems from the total body utilization you can’t mimic with weights and wind sprints. You need repeated drills where you have to physically block someone.
I distinctly remember is wrestling when the football players would finish up football and start practicing wrestling to why would get their asses kicked for the first 2 weeks until they got into wrestling shape.
These guys were in great cardio and strength shape as they lifted and ran all season, but asking someone to do total body exertion is so damn hard to simulate without actually doing the task.
I distinctly remember is wrestling when the football players would finish up football and start practicing wrestling to why would get their asses kicked for the first 2 weeks until they got into wrestling shape.
These guys were in great cardio and strength shape as they lifted and ran all season, but asking someone to do total body exertion is so damn hard to simulate without actually doing the task.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:53 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Physicality for football isn’t forged in the weight room. It’s forged on the practice field where you have to line up across from an opponent and win. Period. Strength and conditioning can help you improve your chances of winning but the technique, will, and effort required come from spring, summer, and fall practices. Not weight room sessions.
Even guys that are big and strong, and look the part sometimes are scared shitless.
At some point, you want to put some pain on someone or not. Laron Landry was laying wood in Baton Rouge even when he had no muscles and weighed 180 lbs.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 3:16 pm to saintslsupels
quote:That's a lot of bad.
then he was bad from 2013-halfway thru 2016, then good in the 2nd half of 2016, then bad in 2017, good again in 2018 and 19, and now sucks again. Did I sum it up correctly?
The decline on the lines is inarguable. We're solidly SEC average. Our DL doesn't get any push and our OL is consistently abused by inferior athletic talent (see: this past week). We haven't had a genuinely good OL in ages, Burrow's herculean pocket presence saved us 2 sacks/game in 18-19.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 3:18 pm to saintslsupels
quote:Yes, we were. We just had an NFL QB under center with eyes in the back of his head and superior instinct covering it up.
We're we getting pushed around in 2019?
Posted on 9/10/21 at 3:20 pm to T
No. Moffitt is fine.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 3:25 pm to Doby
“Yeah, he really does. The “tone” starts with him.”
No it doesn’t
No it doesn’t
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:43 pm to Jim bean xxx
To win a football game u have to learn how to block and tackle ,, : 
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:48 pm to bayouboo
What about fat linemen that suck air after 2 plays ?
If we think that Moffit is on the same level as the guy at Bama , we are just foolish.
Our injuries speak to that. Bama has had 50% reduction in injuries since their new S&C Coach has started.
If we think that Moffit is on the same level as the guy at Bama , we are just foolish.
Our injuries speak to that. Bama has had 50% reduction in injuries since their new S&C Coach has started.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:52 pm to T
You give the new coach full control.
If he wants moffitt then he stays
If not- it’s been real
If he wants moffitt then he stays
If not- it’s been real
Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:03 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Physicality for football isn’t forged in the weight room. It’s forged on the practice field where you have to line up across from an opponent and win. Period. Strength and conditioning can help you improve your chances of winning but the technique, will, and effort required come from spring, summer, and fall practices. Not weight room sessions.
There isn’t enough practice time allowed by the NCAA to do that. Players have to stick to a conditioning and diet regimen to take it the rest of the way on their own time. That isn’t happening right now at LSU and we saw MANY examples of it last year during the COVID shutdowns.
Top program were creative in finding ways to keep players accountable and get them equipment and workout plans if they needed them last season. We failed at all of the above and badly and had several players report badly out of shape and never get back during the season.
It starts with O, but Moffit doesn’t deserve a pass anymore. It’s time to move forward and modernize the approach to S&C, nutrition and injury recovery.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:08 pm to T
Hearing Ingram say how out of shape they were was surprising lol
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