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re: Tiger stadium at 100% capacity

Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:59 am to
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5748 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:59 am to
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I’m worried for the people that can’t get a hospital bed because it is filled with Covid patients that refused to get vaccinated

And in case you don’t remember, this entire bizarre series of events started because we were going to lose 10% or more of the adult population and have people literally dying in their homes/in the streets from this monster virus. Fast forward to 2021 and there are 20 people on ventilators in BRG in a city of 450,000, most of whom are probably 90 years old, and the majority of them will be fine.

But gosh let’s make sure to put ridiculous restrictions on LSU football while half of Louisiana crams themselves into the Walmart on College Drive every day. I know the world is a scary place and you got your little jab so you feel like you need to virtue signal, but this virus isn’t what people like you claimed it was going to be and it never will be.

Let’s be adults here and move on without the fearmongering about hospitals being “overrun”. It’s never going to happen
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10703 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:18 am to
He won’t do anything. He has 4 weeks to use LSU and the saints as pawns. Threaten people to lose what we like so he can get the vaccinations up. But it’s over. Everyone who wants it has it by now. Let everyone go about their business. The state can’t afford to frick with LSU. Not just football either.
Posted by vodahn
Member since May 2021
73 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:18 am to
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And in case you don’t remember, this entire bizarre series of events started because we were going to lose 10% or more of the adult population and have people literally dying in their homes/in the streets from this monster virus. Fast forward to 2021 and there are 20 people on ventilators in BRG in a city of 450,000, most of whom are probably 90 years old, and the majority of them will be fine. But gosh let’s make sure to put ridiculous restrictions on LSU football while half of Louisiana crams themselves into the Walmart on College Drive every day. I know the world is a scary place and you got your little jab so you feel like you need to virtue signal, but this virus isn’t what people like you claimed it was going to be and it never will be. Let’s be adults here and move on without the fearmongering about hospitals being “overrun”. It’s never going to happen

You have no idea what I believe or have believed. At the beginning of all this I thought this was going to be a two week long thing that was no big deal. Then we started having thousands of deaths per day in the US. Louisiana is starting to have 5500 cases per day statewide, and has has hundreds on ventilators. 3000 hospitalizations. More than 90 percent of hospitalizations are the unvaccinated. All of these numbers are projecting up and you want to pack 100,000 into a stadium in a state with 40% vaccinated with no restrictions or requirements at all? People have to go to stores to get food and other items, they don’t have to pack a stadium, especially with how things are trending. And with all of this going on having to get covid tested or show proof of vac isn’t a ridiculous restriction it’s the least we can do.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26308 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:37 am to
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this is bull and a HIPAA violation

It's reality in other parts of the country, namely the Houston area, for forthcoming music concerts
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14537 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:41 am to
I can tell you I've been to 3 games at Wrigley Field this year and two more to see the Cubs in Phoenix just a month ago and there were no capacity restrictions, no mask restrictions and no show of proof of vaccination requirement, and I watched a Cub game last night - there still are no restrictions of any of the sort.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 6:55 am
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5748 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:46 am to
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All of these numbers are projecting up and you want to pack 100,000 into a stadium in a state with 40% vaccinated with no restrictions or requirements at all?

Yes, because I’m not a moron
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People have to go to stores to get food and other items, they don’t have to pack a stadium, especially with how things are trending

Cool. Thousands and thousands of people also touch unsanitized shopping carts, food items, self checkout kiosks, etc. in stores like Walmart and there’s no control of the flow of traffic, just thousands of people at a time wandering around aimlessly and getting within 6 feet of each other.

Not sure what you do in Tiger Stadium, but I walk in with the rest of the one-way foot traffic, walk to my seat without touching anything, sit with my family, and I get within 10 feet of MAYBE 50-100 people in 3 hours, especially if I don’t get concessions. I pass 50-100 people shoulder-to-shoulder within 5 minutes of being in a grocery store. If JBE is so concerned about maintaining order in the stadium, just shut down concessions. Problem largely solved in terms of foot traffic and congregation during the game.

There’s absolutely no consistency or logic being used by people like you. No one goes to Tiger Stadium to socialize with 100,000 people, they’re there to sit with their own group and generally keep to themselves, which is completely fine.

I don’t need to know what you believe to know that you’re a fearmongering bullshite artist who just wants to hear himself talk. I’m not sure what mental disorder you’d have to have to go along with “football = bad and unacceptable, Whole Foods/Walmart/Target/Gas Stations/Work = good and acceptable” but I’m personally tired of watching people like you parrot talking points that do nothing to improve the situation.
Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
Member since Jul 2005
9760 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:55 am to
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As someone who is vaccinated, this is bull and a HIPAA violation


That’s not a HIPAA violation. If LSU called your Doctor for your medical records and your doctor gave them out, then that would be a HIPAA violation.
As for the rapid test, several NFL teams did it last year for the playoffs. Fans with tickets had to drive up a few days earlier to get tested.

Bills fans get tested before divisional game

This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 6:56 am
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5748 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:58 am to
And just to give a numbers perspective as to why limiting football games would be an absolute joke of a political move, there are 4,500,000 residents in Louisiana. It’s safe to assume that 90% or more of those residents are going to work, getting groceries, getting gas, etc. on a daily basis and touching a bunch of shite and getting in other people’s space.

That would be 4,000,000 people moving around per day. And assuming that they only go to one gas station, grocery store, etc. per day, that’s 1,460,000,000 visits per year. shite ton of interactions and risk.

On the flip side, we have 6 home games at 100,000 capacity per home game. That’s 600,000 people per year. And let’s ignore the fact that there’s a much lower rate of interaction at an LSU football game then the other activities I mentioned for a minute for the sake of argument.

That’s a 0.04% increase in yearly activity in Louisiana if you’re being extremely liberal. If you adjusted for average distance between patrons at other activities, frequency of movement at other activities, people who would tailgate anyway without being allowed in the stadium, etc., it would be a ridiculously small increase.

So yea, I’m sure that the added 0.0001% of interactions in a population as large as Louisiana on a yearly basis would really put us over the top and have people dying in the streets. Grow the frick up
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30528 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:03 am to
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quote:

As someone who is vaccinated, this is bull and a HIPAA violation



That’s not a HIPAA violation.


Thanks. It is amazing what people think they know about shite like this
Posted by vodahn
Member since May 2021
73 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:20 am to
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This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 7:29 am
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:21 am to
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hospitalizations/deaths are back up to winter levels.


Cases and hospitalizations are up but deaths are not. The delta variant is not nearly as deadly. Mainly because of vaccinations.
Posted by CarlTech
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
413 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:30 am to
Forever LSU
And just to give a numbers perspective as to why limiting football games would be an absolute joke of a political move, there are 4,500,000 residents in Louisiana. It’s safe to assume that 90% or more of those residents are going to work, getting groceries, getting gas, etc. on a daily basis and touching a bunch of shite and getting in other people’s space.

That would be 4,000,000 people moving around per day. And assuming that they only go to one gas station, grocery store, etc. per day, that’s 1,460,000,000 visits per year. shite ton of interactions and risk.

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These numbers illustrate you know nothing about risk management/social science/epidemiology. That is pure Sponge Bob Square Pants bull shite.
Posted by Bosethus68
We Call It Dat Boot
Member since May 2011
4958 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:30 am to
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LSU won’t say shite till the week of the game. Blee Dat


Money First

Safety Second
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76534 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:33 am to
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Maybe because nobody on the planet has any idea what things will be like 4 weeks from now? We are still too far away to be talking in "definites".
tell that to Jazzfest
Posted by vodahn
Member since May 2021
73 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:35 am to
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These numbers illustrate you know nothing about risk management/social science/epidemiology. That is pure Sponge Bob Square Pants bull shite.

It’s crazy to me that adults like this exist. Grasping for anything to justify them not getting vaccinated/ wearing masks/ social distancing/ caring about other people
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10711 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:41 am to
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155820 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:05 am to
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there is no way in hell JBE allows 100% capacity without something


It’s almost like some of y’all hope this happens just to have something else to melt about
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:14 am to
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I would be concerned about having 100,000 people crammed, maskless screaming at each other too


Why?
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20885 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:21 am to
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We can’t just say “well screw it I don’t want to do this anymore” because it would make everything that we’ve done to this point mean nothing.


No, we can absolutely do that. I'm not saying we necessarily should, but it is certainly an option.

quote:

I have no gain in this, im just caring for other people.


OK, what if the majority of "other people" decide they are done with this and don't need your concern or the intervention of the government in their daily lives?

And answer my question: how long are you willing to do this? A certain number of people will never get the vaccines. I think that's unreasonable, but you can't force them. What if that number is 30-40%? Are you willing to just have restrictions forever?
Posted by shotho
Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
237 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:34 am to
If it's a vaccine, what does it protect against? Is it possible that what you read from government and media is nothing but propaganda?
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