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re: This USA Today crap feels way too calculated

Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12867 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:48 am to
The word rape is powerful. That’s why people on here keep using it to try to tarnish LSU. The word also has a meaning. The traditional meaning of rape is not I made a decision I regretted a week later when someone didn’t call me after sex. To conflate that with rape is a disservice to rape victims.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10440 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:49 am to
The timing was not a coincidence.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Penn State got away with enjoying the young boy's for about 25 years !


Yes, and it's still shameful and disgraceful. Joe Pa was not a saint.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1908 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:07 am to
quote:

the AD specifically instructed its employees/coaches to report them to a person working in the AD, which is the behaviors the law specifically tries to prevent. the whole point of the law is to avoid EXACTLY what LSU was doing (circumventing Title 9 compliance by keeping it "in house")


This.

The important new stuff in this article is that Alleva set up a misdirection to avoid the Title IX office and that Miriam Segar failed to do her required job to report once she was designated as the AD focal point.

If the email is genuine, this new information adds Segar to the list of people who may need to be fired. It also means that we need to re-hire Alleva just to fire him again.

GEAUX TIGERS
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422310 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:10 am to
quote:

You lost me. How am I being dishonest? I only said the incident was reported by the players, as in not reported by her.

you failed to include that they lied and said she attacked him, which makes their "report" completely invalid

if somebody read your comment, they'd think the players reported Davis being abusive, which they didn't. they reported SHE was wrong

quote:

When I said convoluted, I meant that it had to have been convoluted from Sharon Lewis' and Verge Ausberry's point of view.

no. they were complicit in violating Title 9

that's why Verge deleted the incriminating text

LSU itself found that Lewis violated Title 9 procedure

it wasn't convoluted. it was coordinated and they got caught

Posted by reagancajun
Citizen of the world
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:16 am to
quote:

It also means that we need to re-hire Alleva just to fire him again.




Firing that jackass again would be wonderful.

Heads really do need to roll. As I understand it, several of the players in question - understand we're not just speaking of Guice and Davis - were suspended from the team. But there does seem to be a pattern of cover-up, particularly as it concerns Title IX requirements.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1908 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:34 am to
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But there does seem to be a pattern of cover-up, particularly as it concerns Title IX requirements.


This part goes beyond the Athletic Department, which means that the system president at the time should be in trouble as well, except that FKing bailed and is at Oregon State now. Any bets on whether OSU is reconsidering his employment there?

GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted by reagancajun
Citizen of the world
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:36 am to
Yes, it absolutely goes beyond the Athletic Department, but the reporting has to start in the athletic department. They're the ones who have to initiate the process.
Posted by rar
Member since Dec 2020
310 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:36 am to
Lest you forget the mainstream media lacks honesty...they simply cannot be trusted and the past four years destroyed essentially all of their credibility.

They will publish anything that gets attention...anything...and if the publishing organization or a journalist has a hit list there is no telling what they will publish.

They are doing it today as I write this...and USA Today is one of the culprits...among many.



Posted by IAmTheTator
Frisco, TX
Member since Sep 2015
57 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:04 pm to
100% retribution for tPear giving the NCAA tbird
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4335 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:21 pm to
No doubt it is a Bama/georgia influencer. Almost all of it was old news fro a year and then two years ago
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4335 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:24 pm to
Based on what has been reported How is it that LSU did not take rape seriously... The women involved would not report it. Because they did not do that there was nothing to investigate. The assault stuff was dealt with and the guy served time. What else do you suggest be done. Their are rights and confidentiality all around these issues. Even the tennis coach stuff is pretty much a he said she said situation.

So what is your point
Posted by geauxgrrl
Lafayette area
Member since Mar 2004
1087 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:35 pm to
Legitimate rape?
It's rape as soon as the woman says, "No." It is rape whether the woman saying no is drunk or sober. "NO" is the magic word. It means I don't consent. If she said it and he continued, it is rape. I guess you might call it, "legitimate" rape. I continue to wonder what illegitimate rape is. Do tell.
Posted by reagancajun
Citizen of the world
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:35 pm to
Some women involved did report it. The story talks about multiple women, not just the one in the Davis case. Moreover, one AD did not call back a woman who'd lodged a complaint, nor did she report the complaint(s) to the NCAA per Title IX requirements. Campus police are refusing to release the Guice report to the woman who actually filed it. The problem is that this isn't a one-time event; it's a pattern of cover-up that goes beyond the coaches. If anything, the coaches themselves did the right thing by releasing many of the players in question.
Posted by reagancajun
Citizen of the world
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

t's rape as soon as the woman says, "No."


Quit being so logical. [/s]

Seriously, though, you're quite correct. And people are overlooking that there are multiple allegations.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30247 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Calise Richardson was a student athlete recruiting hostess who had previously dated Drake Davis


I’d love to know what they’re trained to do and what they are supposed versus what the actually do.
Posted by Seaux_cal_tiger
Member since Sep 2016
394 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Legitimate rape?
It's rape as soon as the woman says, "No." It is rape whether the woman saying no is drunk or sober. "NO" is the magic word. It means I don't consent. If she said it and he continued, it is rape. I guess you might call it, "legitimate" rape. I continue to wonder what illegitimate rape is. Do tell



He is not trying to argue what constitutes rape. Nobody is here but you. Go grandstand somewhere else.

What he is saying is, either he has not heard the details of the case or the details have not been released so all we have AT THIS POINT is an allegation, a police report and no arrest record.

Don't get me wrong, rape is an absolutely horrible crime but there is still a judicial process that must take place.
Posted by reagancajun
Citizen of the world
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:30 pm to
Guice was absolutely accused of rape by TWO women. Campus police would not release the complete report - even to one of the women who filed a complaint. When they did finally release it, they redacted Guice's name.

LINK
Posted by pointman
new orleans
Member since Dec 2010
2734 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 5:22 pm to
Feels ,like something an alabama alum would get started. They l0ve to sabotage biggest opponents.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12867 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:46 pm to
So you know for a fact that the word “no” was said...,because that’s not the stories I read in USA Today. Keep virtue signaling though. It works for you.
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