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re: This LSU basketball team is somewhat talented…but don’t do anything particularly well…
Posted on 11/14/25 at 10:03 am to PurpleSingularity
Posted on 11/14/25 at 10:03 am to PurpleSingularity
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, no identity, no plan on offense,
Maybe the current plan won't work against better competition but you just don't roll out of bed and score 90+ 3 straight games if you don't have a plan.
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Posted on 11/14/25 at 10:18 am to Lester Earl
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They should shoot well vs bad teams,
They didn't shoot well against bad teams last year. Aside from last night, they have this year.
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but a 4-17 night is alarming and fits the eye test
If that is the norm, then you are correct. But, so far, last night is the outlier.
Last season Kentucky was the top 3 point shooting team in the SEC. Yet, they had so bad 3 point shooting games early in the season:
8-29 (28%) v WKU
7-26 (27%) v. Georgia St
7-27 (26%) v Clemson
4-22 (18%) v Ohio St.
If by the end of the month LSU is consistently shooting below 30% - 32% from 3, then that will be a big concern. But right now, last night was an anomaly
For the sake of comparison, LSU's best 3pt shooting season under McMahon was 23-24. They were 4th in the SEC at 36%. That group had some up and down 3 point performances early
14-26 (58%) v MVSU
3-19 (16%) v. Nicholls St.
7-16 (44%) v. Dayton
4-13 (31%) v. N. Texas
7-18 (39%) Wake Forest
Even with last night's poor performance, the very early trend looks closer to 23-24 than 24-25.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 10:36 am to Alt26
It is really ridiculous to make any assumptions from the 4th game of the season. Especially when that one game is not consistent with the 3 before it. As I said Auburn had to go to overtime to beat Bethune Cookman and gave up 90 points in that game. Auburn also gave up 97 in an exhibition game against Ok ST. So does Auburn suck now? It happens in basketball. We will find out soon enough what we really have from Nov 28 - Sept 17 when the competition picks up..
Posted on 11/14/25 at 10:40 am to PurpleSingularity
What's up Will Wade?
Posted on 11/14/25 at 11:17 am to mcspufftiger7
The chinhoyang of Matt McMahon returns
Posted on 11/14/25 at 11:52 am to tigerfan92
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What's up Will Wade?
3-0. NC State current has the most efficient offense in the country (not weighted for SOS because the data set is too small at the moment). They are No. 1 in ppg. It's very, VERY, early. But their offense is just crushing opponents at the moment.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 11:58 am to Alt26
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They are No. 1 in ppg. It's very, VERY, early. But their offense is just crushing opponents at the moment.
The rant hated Wade's offense when he was here.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:03 pm to redfishfan
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The rant hated
Water wet
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:20 pm to redfishfan
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The rant hated Wade's offense when he was here.
That's the byproduct of a few things.
1. The collective basketball knowledge of the fanbase is pretty low. That's the result of 30+ years of inconsistent/poor results. The fans haven't cared enough to develop good basketball knowledge.
2. Basketball, by its nature, is an "offensive" sport. Even very best defensive teams still give up at least 60 ppg. When viewed through a football context, 60 is a LOT of points. So a lot of casual fans don't see giving up only 60 points as "good defense". That means all of the focus is on offense and many people think when their team loses its because the offense was bad and their team couldn't score enough. In reality, there are many times the offense was fine. It's just the team couldn't stop the other team from scoring. That was the first 4 years of Wade's tenure.
3. Wade's offenses don't "look" like the Princeton offense, or the model from Hoosiers with precisely executed multiple chest passes and backdoor cuts. So they call it "streetball" when in reality there is lot of strategy that goes into creating mismatches
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:27 pm to mcspufftiger7
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really ridiculous to make any assumptions from the 4th game of the season.
You have made ridiculous basketball posts for years now. You don’t know anything
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:31 pm to Alt26
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3. Wade's offenses don't "look" like the Princeton offense, or the model from Hoosiers with precisely executed multiple chest passes and backdoor cuts. So they call it "streetball" when in reality there is lot of strategy that goes into creating mismatches
Yea it's more of a conceptual offense. That's what the majority of colleges are doing now.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:39 pm to redfishfan
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The rant hated Wade's offense when he was here.
This OP could be verbatim from ones posted during Wade's tenure here. TD posters say this about every single basketball team every season. I don't think many posters here have a clue what they're looking at.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:42 pm to Wabbit7
They in fact do not
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:50 pm to Lapaz
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We played 2 cupcakes in the first 3 games,
We played cupcakes in all 3 this year and we beat the first one last year - ULM as bad or worse than we beat any of the 3 this cupcakes so far this year and we beat Kansas State on the road by 11. To me that balances out the Alabama St. Game.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:54 pm to Wabbit7
quote:This is correct. Like Alt mentioned and I’ve said for years, the collective got their basketball “knowledge” from watching the movie Hoosiers.
I don't think many posters here have a clue what they're looking at.
We have a combination of an ignorant and a stupid fanbase overall. Heck, you got a poster on here talking about all of his CBB knowledge and a dribble penetration play he saw that justifies a whole shitload of hugely misinformed conclusions, yet he has to ask, “WTF is a Kenpom?”
Yeah, that’s a real and true CBB fan that knows ball.
Total dunce.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 1:45 pm to Tiger Ugly
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We played cupcakes in all 3 this year and we beat the first one last year - ULM as bad or worse than we beat any of the 3 this cupcakes so far this year and we beat Kansas State on the road by 11. To me that balances out the Alabama St. Game.
I agree the opening game this year looked the same as last year. However, thus far, LSU has trailed for a TOTAL of 1:11 in their first 3 games. In both instances (vs TSU and FIU) those deficits were in the first 2:00 of the game. Compare that with the first 3 "cupcake" games last season where LSU trailed for a combined ~35:00 in those games.
LSU has yet to play a good team. There is still a LOT of uncertainty. But if you are trying to do an apples to apples comparison of past teams, even against weak competition, LSU has never been this dominant in the first 3 games of a season under McMahon.
That may not mean much when it's said and done. But if you are hoping for things to be different this season, the level of dominance in these first three games IS different.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 2:07 pm to Alt26
And that is the point. This team is different from the last 3 teams. Doesn't mean they will be in the upper echelon of the SEC but they are doing things this year that they didn't last year. To say they suck because they had a bad first half is ridiculous but then that's why they call them rantards.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 2:33 pm to mcspufftiger7
Let’s face it ,those that don’t see any improvement in any phase of the team don’t want to.They are scared to death MM might have a decent team.Ifs that’s the case their dream won’t come true,a new coach next season.The last 3years I’ve started to watch games but would turn them off after about 15-20 minutes ,I just couldn’t watch the ineptitude of the team.This season so far it has been fun watching this team. They can shoot the 3 penetrate dish off allyoop ,I’ve Been entertained.It looks like MM is going to get the same treatment as BK with a lot of fans ,constant negativity.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 2:37 pm to Alt26
And, because the depth seems to be a bit better, we can rotate some more people in if a shooter is struggling, we get in foul trouble, etc. In previous years we didn't have quality depth. Early indications are this team has more experience and depth....hopefully that will translate to more wins.
I watched Purdue - Alabama last night....those 2 teams are still in a different tier than LSU, but maybe we can at least win our home court and steal some road wins against the lesser teams that we've been used to losing to (Georgia, State, south Carolina, maybe Mizzou and A&M this year)
I watched Purdue - Alabama last night....those 2 teams are still in a different tier than LSU, but maybe we can at least win our home court and steal some road wins against the lesser teams that we've been used to losing to (Georgia, State, south Carolina, maybe Mizzou and A&M this year)
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