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This is why it matters...

Posted on 12/4/19 at 5:23 am
Posted by RaginRed
Ohio
Member since Sep 2014
433 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 5:23 am
I don't care what anyone's narrative is about Clemson this season. The fact of the matter is they are a dangerous team with a Great Coach and a Massive Chip on their shoulder. Just look back at Dabo's bowl record over the last 10 years. It's incredible. Victories over US! OHIO STATE twice, Oklahoma twice, Bama twice, and Notre Dame. Fact of the matter is they come to play in Bowl season. They are the defending National Champions who have been given zero respect. You better bet your a** they are coming to make a statement.

Yes, I believe in our boys, I believe in Joe. I just don't think he will let us lose. He's been incredible all season. But if we draw Clemson first round I think it's going to be a enormous obstacle as opposed to Utah.

Furthermore why should OSU get an easier road to the title game? Haven't they had it easy enough this season??? BIG10 is overrated. Committee is clearly already helping their cause. I'm not impressed with their schedule or their victories over so-called quality opponents.

Fact of the matter is we shouldn't have to prove we are #1. We are #1 in the AP, the coaches and the Power Rankings. We should get the respect of Navigating the SEC undefeated. We play a much better opponent in the SEC championship game too (basically in their own backyard) meanwhile OSU gets Wiscy again. A team they already thumped this season. LSU has earned the right to play the #4 seed in the playoffs.

These are the facts of WHY it does matter.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 5:29 am to
quote:

This is why it matters...
It matters because seeding matters. Seeding is designed to reward higher seeds for their body of work. Denying that, or shrugging it off, is stupid.

Having said that, if LSU beats UGA, then Clemson, then OSU, this team would rank as one of the best in NCAA history.
Posted by FlaFlash
Member since Dec 2019
234 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 5:30 am to
Penn St and or Wisconsin would be AT BEST 7-5 with a&Ms schedule. Cinn would likely not be bowl eligible. That's what some people fail to understand. All records are not created equally.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 5:42 am to
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That's what some people fail to understand.
Oh, make no mistake, they understand. They simply "look past" that understanding.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67887 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 5:47 am to
Agree.

And none of that matters unless we beat UGA first.
Posted by cctiger89
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2018
1187 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 5:47 am to
You're 100% right. I can honestly say that I get actually upset at how bias this committee and the media is towards our team and the schedule they've played. It's just mind blowing to me how much disrespect could be given to one program right in front of our eyes.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2739 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 5:58 am to
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RaginRed

quote:

LSU has earned the right to play the #4 seed in the playoffs.


It does not matter

I would think the final CFP rankings will come out next week after the conference championships it is possible for a few of the top 4 ranked teams could lose and shake up the final poll.

LSU is playing Georgia and statistics on defense by far the best team LSU will play this year. Georgia is no gimmie game and if we win or win in a big fashion then the committee may vote LSU #1 and if Ohio St loses they may drop out

If LSU loses to Georgia we may sneak in and if so we would be #4 for sure.

This is why it does not matter until after this weekend
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57941 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:03 am to
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These are the facts of WHY it does matter.


Everything you said is true. Too bad the committee doesn’t care about facts.
Posted by BonesMalone
Member since May 2019
180 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:04 am to
If we were playing Clemson in the Rose bowl instead of Arizona, everyone would be pumped up and no bitching. We travel very well, team and fans. Clemson has no advantages out there.
Just show up and play. The team knows that. I wish the fans would follow in line.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18637 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:10 am to
It’s simpler than that.

Playing Clemson in round one is going to be harder than Utah or whoever else. That game carries more injury risk or hangover effect than playing. 1v4.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57941 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:25 am to
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If we were playing Clemson in the Rose bowl instead of Arizona, everyone would be pumped up and no bitching


Can you please explain this. It doesn’t seem to make any sense to me?
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:29 am to
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Penn St and or Wisconsin would be AT BEST 7-5 with a&Ms schedule. Cinn would likely not be bowl eligible. That's what some people fail to understand. All records are not created equally.


Indeed, brother. I've been trying to drive home the point of not all records being created equal for about two months. People keep saying "why do you say OSU plays no one? Their opponents winning percentage is blah, blah". To which, I say, go look at who the teams on OSU's schedule have played. People think Cincy and Indiana were quality wins. Those teams both had trouble beating awful teams. Especially Cincy.

Minnesota, who OSU has not played, rolled up a bunch of wins against nobody, and almost lost to Georgia Southern. But they beat Penn State. And Penn State is supposed to be some great team?

It's all about the narrative. People decided that the Big 10 was a strong conference, and so we're not supposed to look into that deeply. We're supposed to accept that Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin are really good teams, and not compare their resume's vs our opponents resume's. Therefore, we cannot be objective when comparing stats and "eye test". We're just supposed to view numbers in a vacuum.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8814 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:29 am to
Oregon will beat Utah anyway.
Posted by Pelicanus
Member since Jun 2019
651 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:30 am to
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Having said that, if LSU beats UGA, then Clemson, then OSU, this team would rank as one of the best in NCAA history.


The best.

There is a chance if LSU runs the table and Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and Auburn win the final poll could look like this

1. LSU
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Georgia
5. Florida
6. Alabama
7. Auburn
8. Oklahoma
9. Utah
10. Baylor


LSU could have wins over every team in the top 7. No team in history would come close.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36808 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:41 am to
Here in the West everyone gripes about SEC being overrated. They're serious!
If Utah, Oregon, UW were in SEC they would be an A&M or Auburn type position.
Posted by bleedpg
Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
Member since Dec 2006
1117 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:50 am to
I don't care. You still have to win. Period. All you people sound like cry babies. Win and move on to the next.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:08 am to
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If Utah, Oregon, UW were in SEC they would be an A&M or Auburn type position.
Considering Oregon lost to Auburn, saying they'd be in an Auburn-type position is a non sequitur.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:08 am to
The risk of injury at this level will not be a factor. All the teams in the playoff will be good and physical. Tua got hurt against Mississippi State, hardly a world beater. Swift got hurt against A&M. I don’t recall in which game Delpit got hurt, but I don’t think it was against one of the higher ranked teams. It would be interesting to go back through games and see if opponent ranking has a statistical impact on the number of injuries. My guess is it is less relevant than we might think.

In the end, just get the job done. I think that is what this team thinks. They will not be intimidated by Clemson. They have just as much to prove as Clemson, if not more. At the end of the day, if we are going to lose, does it matter that much which of two games we lose? No one will care 6 months from now. If we can’t beat Clemson, we shouldn’t be the NC.

This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 7:11 am
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18206 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:45 am to
Utah is AT LEAST 20 points worse than LSU, OSU or Clemson.
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