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re: This is what people should be complaining about.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:10 pm to Broski
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:10 pm to Broski
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As I said earlier in this thread, if you don't have scholarships set aside for specific sports, you're back to the Bear Bryant days of Alabama football where the baseball and track programs are used to give more scholarships to football players.
That would destroy college
I agree 100%
It's not Title IX limiting scholarships, it's the school's who do it to save money by allowing more schools a level playing field.
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:11 pm to doubleb
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It's not Title IX limiting scholarships,
No, Title IX is definitely limiting scholarships because football is included.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:18 pm to Broski
Nope
If the NCAA allowed 15 more scholarships for football, LSU could do it easily and start s female lacrosse team to balance things out, right?
They could easily justify 20baseball scholarships and give the ladies more softball schollies.
If the NCAA allowed 15 more scholarships for football, LSU could do it easily and start s female lacrosse team to balance things out, right?
They could easily justify 20baseball scholarships and give the ladies more softball schollies.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:22 pm to doubleb
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If the NCAA allowed 15 more scholarships for football
85-15 is still 70... no women's sport comes close to having that scholarship number. That's still a lot of men's schollies that need to be cut to make an equal number for men and women.
And one school adding another women's sport wouldn't change anything... the 11.7 is a NCAA rule.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:26 pm to navy
quote:Then Alabama would sign 70 kids a year in Football.
Seems like every college should get a lump sum of schollies to do with as they please with any sport.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:27 pm to Broski
If the total schollie numbers in all sports comply with the law, then there are no issues.
If football had 100 scholarships the women would have to have roughly the same but it could be applied over several sports just as it is now with 85.
If football had 100 scholarships the women would have to have roughly the same but it could be applied over several sports just as it is now with 85.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:28 pm to doubleb
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If football had 100 scholarships the women would have to have roughly the same but it could be applied over several sports just as it is now with 85.
How does adding scholarships to football help the mens sports that are having scholarship funding cut from title IX?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:29 pm to Carville
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Then Alabama would sign 70 kids a year in Football.
Exactly and they would have 70 ladies getting scholarships to comply with the law.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:33 pm to Broski
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How does adding scholarships to football help the mens sports that are having scholarship funding cut from title IX?
Schools aren't cutting scholarship funding due to Title IX.
All I'm saying is the NCAA rules are limiting the number of scholarships a school can give. Every sport has a limit.
Title IX says you just have to give men an equal opportunity as you give the women.
Title line has no limits, the NCAA does.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:36 pm to doubleb
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Schools aren't cutting scholarship funding due to Title IX.
No the NCAA cut actual scholarships because of Title IX, hence college baseball having just 11.7 schollies to give out to 27 players.
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Title line has no limits, the NCAA does.
Well considering the NCAA created Title IX...
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:38 pm to macaoidh
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I'd love it for LSU to have a lacrosse team.
They do. They play in the MCLA with a lot of other SEC teams as well as Texas and Florida teams.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:38 pm to Broski
They should combine men's and women's sports and do away with the sexist separation of sports. Let them all play together. After all, the NCAA says genders don't play sports, athletes do. 
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:59 pm to Broski
Congress created title IX
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:59 pm to Broski
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Well considering the NCAA created Title IX...
It's federal law and applies to gender discrimination, not just athletics.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:53 pm to Broski
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Title IX
Can't be the answe! Genders don't play sports.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:11 pm to Broski
quote:The year before Title IX took effect there were over 100 division-1 NCAA men's gymnastics programs... there are now only six (two of those have stopped recruiting and will cancel their programs once the students graduate).
Title IX
Care to guess how many Olympic and world championship medals the USA has won in men's gymnastics since Title IX?
I'm no fan of men's gymnastics, but I think that's a damned impactful example of the unintended consequences of what happens when we try to make everything "fair."
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:19 pm to SlapahoeTribe
I argued this in school a while back.
I get why we needed title ix, but do you guys seriously think if baseball was allowed more scholarships, LSU would just start scrapping women's programs? I think there would be a huge backlash.
It's just outdated bs that is not necessary, making it unfair for men.
Colleges already have more women than men.
I get why we needed title ix, but do you guys seriously think if baseball was allowed more scholarships, LSU would just start scrapping women's programs? I think there would be a huge backlash.
It's just outdated bs that is not necessary, making it unfair for men.
Colleges already have more women than men.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:19 pm to SlapahoeTribe
Meanwhile universities are taking in a record amount of revenues.
They plead poverty, but the truth is administrators and coaches have never had it so good.
Facilities have gotten better and better too; however, the number of kids on scholarships have hardly gone up.
They plead poverty, but the truth is administrators and coaches have never had it so good.
Facilities have gotten better and better too; however, the number of kids on scholarships have hardly gone up.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:21 pm to dgnx6
Personally I'd like to see the big schools handing more scholarships to men and women instead of paying coaches hundreds of thousands more than they are worth.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:34 pm to tigerbait2010
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my problem is that we can't just justify it with science.
My problem is they won't use their fricking heads. If they just exempted men's football at Division I - nobody bitches about a thing. Everything else is fairly balanced.
But, what we have is - highly qualified male athletes having to pay their own way to play NCAA baseball, while unqualified female athletes in more problematic sports (like lacrosse or whatever) get a free ride to balance out football.
Simple fix - exempt football at Division I. Boom. Everybody lives.
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