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re: This is how NFL Scouts see Jayden Daniels...

Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7048 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:58 am to
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yeah, the kid is an athlete
He's a helluva an athlete: 710 yards rushing; 5.1 YPC; 6 TDs. No one on LSU's rosters last year had better YPC or more TDs. Only TDP had more yards rushing.

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and not a bad qb
He's actually a good QB. He had the highest completion percentage and the second highest YPA in the PAC-12.

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but he is not beating out a 5th year player
Daniels is going into his 4th year.

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that has been here
Brennan didn't play last year, and he had never played for these coaches.

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that the coaching staff recruited to come back from the portal
Daniels was recruited to come here from the portal.

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WAS going to be the starter the last two years
Daniels was the starter for the last three years.

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keeps this and ill see you in Sept.
Yup.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175429 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:02 am to
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This is how NFL Scouts see Jayden Daniels...

I wonder why NFL scouts like a guy with terrible stats so much…

Posted by bayou prince
NC
Member since Oct 2019
1525 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:18 am to
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If he’s so great, why is he transferring


Probably because he isn't that good, certainly not as a passer. He is more in the Sam Ehlinger mode, good runner, very average passer. He had no real reason to transfer from ASU AS NOONE WAS PROJECTED TO PASS HIM UP. Still, a good pick-up.

Joe Burrow transferred because he was in a battle with a QB who set all kind of records in his one season as starter at OSU. As it turned out Joe turned out to be the better all-around QB, not because of physical raw talent but because of football smarts mentally (ala Tom Brady). Ohio State had an 'embarrassment of riches' at QB, which they have to this day.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 11:21 am
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41008 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:23 am to
His ASU stats don’t really stand out to me, especially last season. Why are we hyping him up already?
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:43 am to
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Can you elaborate on this? What field of work do you evaluate talent for?



I have multiple baseball players at LSU right now... I have dozens and dozens of players all over the country in baseball. one of the top HR hitters in the country is mine... Im in Travel ball/Instruction...

I also dabble a little bit in football, when I see a player I can connect with many football programs through the baseball dept, because many 7 on 7 tournaments are played right next to summer baseball tournaments..
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37759 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:43 am to
I agree. I think all of the qbs have question marks. Not sure why anyone is hyping anyone right now. Let the guys come in and try running the system ffs
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:45 am to
this is a pet peeve of mine... just because you "played" doesnt mean youre a talent evaluator or a coach. I know so many current and former big leaguers that are some of the stupidest people on this earth...

same in any other sport...
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:47 am to
Jayden Daniels is a right handed Justin McMillan
Posted by Noobmaster_69
Member since Nov 2021
92 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:49 am to
You linked an article from ONE "draft expert" and titled your post as "This is how NFL Scouts see Jayden Daniels..." and in said linked article said draft experts says other draft experts have daniels ranked lower.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37759 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:57 am to
There’s WAY too many things up in the air to determine who’s going to start.

None of the qbs have played for these coaches.

Brennan looked amazing for three games. But it was two years ago in a completely different system. Since then he hasn’t seen the field. Injured multiple times. One injury was extremely severe. Has appeared out of shape. Didn’t have a lot of offers at big programs in the portal.

Daniels was very highly rated in high school and had two full good years. But last year was not great.

Nuss is a guy who appeared to have a lot of potential. But didn’t look very good in his limited work last year. Still very young.

So how anyone thinks they know who the best option is is beyond me. Each prospect has some questions.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 12:27 pm
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37759 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 12:05 pm to
So what is it you’re basing your judgments on?

And why didn’t Brennan have a lot of big offers in the portal?

Is this a championship qb that no power 5 team in the country seems to see or recognize? Why?

Since you are the first talent evaluator I’ve seen in here, I’m legitimately asking.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
5325 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 12:14 pm to
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Depending on how he is utilized, he could add a much needed dimension


Someone gets it.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287958 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 12:18 pm to
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he will get snaps but he is the back up plan (which you do need)


Man some of y’all are bad at reading the room
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 12:25 pm to
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Jesus dude, it's almost like you have an agenda here


He might, but he wouldn't be the only one, on this situation, people on both sides making utterly ridicules statements based on foolishness.

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Wrucker16


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I’m going to call my shot and say he’ll be the 2nd best QB we’ve had when it’s all said and done.


We have had another QB go #1 overall

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Madking


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32 TDs in 29 games, about 200 yards per game, 1 season with a completion% over 60 and a passer rating in the low 140s. Plus his play has declined from that incredibly overrated freshman year, nowhere else are you gonna see people pimping 17TDs in modern major college football. Maybe the greatness is just bubbling beneath the surface but he’s been a below average player so far.


And then the Lead village idiot just spouting off as usual


Daniels:29 total starts Team was 18-11 in games he started .620 winnning pct

Brennen: 3 total starts Team was 1-2 in games he started .333 winning pct

Daniels comp% by year: 2019 60.6% on 338 attempts, 2020 58.3% on 84 attempts, 2021 65.4% on 301 attempts

Brennan Comp% by year: 2017 58.3% on 24 attempts, 2018 66.7% on 6 Attempts, 2019 60.3% on 40 attempts, 2020 60.3% on 131 Attempts, 2021 no stats

Facts say 2 years over 60% for both.

Daniels 62.4% for career in 723 attempts
Brennen 60.2% for career in 201 attempts

Daniels 32TD 13Int: 1TD per 22.5 attempts, 1Int per 55.6 attempts
Brennen 13TD 5Int 1TD per 15.4 attempts, 1Int per 40.2 attempts

But somehow people are saying one or the other is the clear choice and the other sux.

Relax and let BK figure it out. They are paying him $9.5M
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 12:33 pm
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10703 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 12:33 pm to
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He's actually a good QB. He had the highest completion percentage and the second highest YPA in the PAC-12.


He had a NFL caliber WR year 1 and put up great stats, his receiver groups Yrs 2-3 weren't that good and he has had crap QB coaching the last 2 years, didn't have a dedicated QB coach in 2021. He definitely adds a dimension that LSU hasn't had the last 2 seasons and will be targeting a much better group of receivers. I think he can be a big bonus for LSU whether he starts or rotates in for key plays.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65982 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 1:06 pm to
Kinda like when you said DJ Chark would never play in the NFL or when you said we’d never be an over .500 team with Tremont Waters as our point guard or like when you said Cam Thomas was trash or when you said Seneca Wallace would be our best player this year or like when you said Jalen Cook wasn’t good enough to play at LSU then pretended like you said the opposite all year long? Kind of like that? Don’t frick with me little boy.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 1:09 pm
Posted by StAugFLTiger
Member since Jan 2022
1505 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 2:45 pm to
Why didn't you put the complete stats?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65982 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 2:49 pm to
For once we agree. The kid maybe improved enough to win the job, I’m
sure Kelly’s gonna play whoever earns it but people saying he’s gonna end up as the second best QB to ever play at LSU and some saying he would’ve been drafted ahead of Tre Lance, which means #2 overall, if he would’ve come out are insane.
Posted by StAugFLTiger
Member since Jan 2022
1505 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 2:50 pm to
Is this a joke? You realize the PAC is absolute garbage and a passing league.

This isn't apples to apples. We will never learn on these athletic, fast qbs.
Posted by StAugFLTiger
Member since Jan 2022
1505 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 2:52 pm to
All I see is excuses as to why he was 10 TD and 10 int in a garbage league with pass happy offenses. There is a huge difference in the league's defenses.
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