re: This is getting way out of hand...some perspective

I agree with 100% with LSU Matt. Sure we want the offense to do better and Lee should play more. But the negativity towards an undefeated and great LSU team is out of control.

I watched the game at the bar in the Beau Rivage casino and you could not hear the crowd on the TV (thank god). There were maybe 20 LSU fans watching. My friend said, I think there are some WVU fans behind us, because they would start yelling, once Jefferson did anything bad. I told her, no unfortunately, they were LSU fans.

At the end of the game when the offense did sustain a drive and started the victory formation most of us cheered them on. Some so called fans walked away disgusted. They were a disgrace.

Yes, it can be painful at times to watch the QB play and I agree with most that something different needs to be implemented for the QB play.
But I can't understand how you cannot cheer when the team or even Jefferson does do something good.

I love this team. It is so different from last year or the year before. There are so many players to love and get excited about watching (Petterson, Ridley, Nevis, K. Sheppard, Randle, Mathieu, Claiborne, Russell Shepherd). I haven't felt this way about our players since 2007. Don't give up on them!

God I can't stand the negativity of the fan base. And the booing is irrational and stupid, it's like fighting with you drunk wife. I can see the drunk students, but come on man, we are undefeated and yes while painful to sometimes watch our offense, I believe we can beat any of the rest of our SEC opponents.

Start the meltdown, when it is relevant. Be rational. Love the tigers, they are undefeated. The team has great chemistry, don't ruin it. Support them as a fan base, 12th man, create that advantage, especially at home, and anything is possible.

Remember the LSU LSU LSU chant when we fell behind to Ga in 2003. WE THE FANS created great energy for the team, AND the FANS were the winning edge.

I know this is long, but I also wanted to rant and this is the only rational post, I felt worthy of entering into or extending.

Thanks LSU MATT for trying to breath energy back to the room and to the fan base that follow the team here.

Thanks Chicken for this site.

winers and spoiled brats? i would take mark richt right now. give a good coach this kind of talent and you would see a team that would dominate other teams not just win by 6 or 7 points. miles is a great recruiter and gets the right players but as a coach if he got let go from lsu he would have a hard time getting a head coaching job at another sec school. his ideal of winning a game is to get a lead and sit on it.. just run out the clock even if its the first quarter, thus you have teams like nc allmost beating you and wv getting back in the game.
Miles has been very lucky with bo polini, he would not have won the nc game without him.now he has another good def cord and a sucky oc coach. he seems to coach like he talks in interviews... half -arse. If he wouldnt have run jj under the bus in the ole miss game last year he would not be starting now.

You post half arse. Maybe we should fire you. Who the frick is Bo Polini?

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If we got in trouble I wouldn't be surprised to see him rack up some huge yardage,




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It ain't too hard to see happening, but it would have to be in an ugly loss. If we were down maybe 3 scores, and the coaches tell him to throw it deep to Randle and Tolliver and don't worry about picks, JJ's a good choice- he's mobile enough to buy time, and he's got the arm to let'er rip. Might not have a good %, but might get close to 300 yds.
Granted we still probably lose by a big margin in this case, but he has hit his receivers before in crunch time (see Ole Miss last yr).

This might be a case of being overstressed to NOT throw a pick, and once it's not an issue he might be more relaxed. If so, the coaches need to ease off a bit about taking risks.

Actually in typing this scenario out, I'm wondering if this IS the problem, with the defense so good that he's just trying too hard not to lose it himself. That at least gives me a little hope if we keep him back there.

matt, thanks for the try.

to answer your question: yes, miserable. You're talking about a fanbase that works pretty hard to watch their tigers play, slightly spoiled by all the recent success, which makes them proud.

The last thing a fan wants to have is their pride stripped away. And it's happening, and they don't like it.

When the play of the QB is this poor fans have a right to be very worried and to write about it on this type of board. No one is doubting that JJ is trying his best to be a good QB. Effort is not the issue. Poor coaching decisions are the issue here. Perhaps JJ would do better if he were to sit for a couple of weeks and regroup. Playing him consistently after poor performances or performances where he throws the ball minimally (as in the Miss St game) might not be what's best for him or for the team.

I have heard tons of praise for the defense and for special teams from this board. The fair criticism for poor coaching and poor QB play are not out of line. Denigrating a player personally is.

I don't have time to respond to 100 posts but:

1) I am in no way defending JJ and I think Lee should get a shot, b/c the QB situation needs major improvements. I am not convinced Lee will do better, but a start against Tennessee will be good time to find out

2) The we went "4-0" the last two years too is a week argument. We didn't beat 4 straight BCS teams those years or beat 2 ranked teams. Btw, we also started 4-0 in 2003 and 2007.

3) I am not so stupid to recognize we need improvement at the QB spot to win big games and I am frustrated during the games too. But I am happy to be 4-0 and ranked #10. I am also excited to see that if we get even mediocre at that position we could be really, really great.

4) Losing sucks. I will wait till we lose to experience losing. Its not like we can do anything about it. I completely understand being frustrated with the QB, I just don't understand acting like we are 0-4 when we are ranked #10

All of the points made by the OP just illustrate what will be wasted by stubborn coaches and lack of discipline.

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King of the Rantards

[quote]What has LSU football come to that we can't enjoy an undefeated team and a top 10 ranking? Is LSU football really only going to be fun for us for the rest of our lives if we win 11 games a year AND dominate in those games? There was a time that going 8-5 and winning the Peach Bowl was a blast, but the fanbase is miserable with this? [/quote
I'm thinking 9-3 with a Cap One bowl . Not bad at all.