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re: This board's obsession with defunding Women's basketball
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:02 pm to ThePoo
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:02 pm to ThePoo
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Hell, in a decade the ncaa and title IX may not even exist
You may be right about the NCAA. But you're dead wrong about Title IX. It's never going away. Which means you have to spend money on women's sports.
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:12 pm to SaveFarris
Losing 9M a year on a sport for university is just unacceptable. Should not be allowed to continue.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:13 pm to lsutiger2
WBB has earned a prominent place in the athletic hierarchy. They have been at the top and on top recently. Prior to that they had a great stretch going to five straight final fours.
Attendance is great and we get feature games on national tv.
But do they need to spend more money than any other WBB program? Do we need a dozen coaches/assistants? If they cut back to five or six could anyone here see a difference?
If the players need compensation then pay them with money saved by cutting expenses.
In the last audit report it indicated WBB spent just under 12.1 million dollars. Three years prior the audit report indicates WBB spent just over 8.3 million dollars. Spending increased 46%! In the fiscal year ending 2020 (5 years before the latest audit) WBB spent just over 4.7 million dollars do you can see that WBB had certainly gotten more than their share under KM.
Was that necessary? Do we need all these coaches? Could there be some cut backs to get money to the players? I think so.
Attendance is great and we get feature games on national tv.
But do they need to spend more money than any other WBB program? Do we need a dozen coaches/assistants? If they cut back to five or six could anyone here see a difference?
If the players need compensation then pay them with money saved by cutting expenses.
In the last audit report it indicated WBB spent just under 12.1 million dollars. Three years prior the audit report indicates WBB spent just over 8.3 million dollars. Spending increased 46%! In the fiscal year ending 2020 (5 years before the latest audit) WBB spent just over 4.7 million dollars do you can see that WBB had certainly gotten more than their share under KM.
Was that necessary? Do we need all these coaches? Could there be some cut backs to get money to the players? I think so.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:16 pm to Allthatfades
[quote]It’s hard to compete in four sports.
There are way more sports at LSU than just four. We should be able to compete in all of them. With Kim Mulkey here, I would rather fund womens Basketball than either baseball or men's basketball. I have opinions like everyone else here. I couldnt care less about watching a slow baseball game in the hot sun, or on my couch four hours, four days a week, unless we get to the NCAA tournament.
I think some here are pissed, well, because its women, and they are...good.
There are way more sports at LSU than just four. We should be able to compete in all of them. With Kim Mulkey here, I would rather fund womens Basketball than either baseball or men's basketball. I have opinions like everyone else here. I couldnt care less about watching a slow baseball game in the hot sun, or on my couch four hours, four days a week, unless we get to the NCAA tournament.
I think some here are pissed, well, because its women, and they are...good.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:22 pm to lsutiger2
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This board's obsession with defunding Women's basketball
Funny thing is no one says a word when talking about college baseball
At LSU, Baseball hovers right around the break even mark.
Some years it loses a little, some years it makes a little. Long term average is roughly net Neutral.
Women's Basketball loses $7 mil+ every single year.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:23 pm to ScootiniTiger
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There are way more sports at LSU than just four. We should be able to compete in all of them. With Kim Mulkey here, I would rather fund womens Basketball than either baseball or men's basketball. I have opinions like everyone else here. I couldnt care less about watching a slow baseball game in the hot sun, or on my couch four hours, four days a week, unless we get to the NCAA tournament.
I think some here are pissed, well, because its women, and they are...good.
Unfortunately your feelings for WBB are not shared by most sports fans which determines revenue. We can still have a team for you... we just should not lose the kind of money we are blowing right now.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:23 pm to tigerfoot
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now ask yourself why watching 7 less coordinated players dive after a ball like it is a greased pig is a good thing.
Thats one reason I love womens basketball. They are damn scrappy and they fight. Most are just as athletic and coordinated as the guys. Men don't care much. They just want to be in the lime-light, dunk and be on a reel.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:23 pm to ThePoo
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You are talking about a nearly $8 million dollar revenue deficit for women’s basketball. If you funded half that into basketball, not only could you help benefit a team that profits, you can cut revenue deficit.
Except you can’t cut the deficit from 8 million to 4 million. Alabama spent the least money on women’s basketball in the sec and had a 5 million dollar deficit. And their coach just left them for a mid major job bc they wouldn’t spend any money.
Mulkey also brings in a revenue with this team. The team brought in over 4 million in revenue while bama’s team brought in 750K. If we let mulkey go and hire a cheap coach our expenses will go down but so will our revenue.
If you look at the expenses for a team in the middle of the conference, ole miss for example. They finished 8-8 in the conference and lost 7.4 million dollars. Do you really want to trade a chance at national championships for permanent mediocrity to save 600k?
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:24 pm to Tigercowboy
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9 Million is a lot money to lose every year.
Define losing money?? MBB has been losing and had lost more than WBB.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:26 pm to SouthernInsanity
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Define losing money?? MBB has been losing and had lost more than WBB.
Incredible.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:40 pm to lsutiger2
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is ignorant and short sighted
Is it? Has there ever been a profitable women’s basketball team, anywhere, ever? Calling people ignorant doesn’t make your stupid take any less stupid
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Funny thing is no one says a word when talking about college baseball when the money it makes is pretty much insignificant if you are following yalls logic
Baseball generated $10,000,000+ in revenue last year and lost less than $1,000,000.
Meanwhile, WBB generated less than half of that, $4,000,000, and lost almost $8,000,000 total.
The numbers aren’t even comparable. It’s a complete joke that we spend $12,000,000 on the equivalent of the skill level of an average to below average 2A high school boys’ program.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:42 pm to lsutiger2
Nobody GAF about women's sports at LSU
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:44 pm to ryanlsu
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Except you can’t cut the deficit from 8 million to 4 million. Alabama spent the least money on women’s basketball in the sec and had a 5 million dollar deficit. And their coach just left them for a mid major job bc they wouldn’t spend any money. Mulkey also brings in a revenue with this team. The team brought in over 4 million in revenue while bama’s team brought in 750K. If we let mulkey go and hire a cheap coach our expenses will go down but so will our revenue
And by your example we will lose less money
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If you look at the expenses for a team in the middle of the conference, ole miss for example. They finished 8-8 in the conference and lost 7.4 million dollars. Do you really want to trade a chance at national championships for permanent mediocrity to save 600k?
Well by your numbers from bama it’s save 3 million dollars.
So absolutely.
Spend 3 million more on the men’s program for some players and make a run in the tourney
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:46 pm to tzimme4
I beg to differ. Both gymnastics and women’s basketball are sold out of tickets. Both
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:52 pm to PSS101
Yeah people have little girls. That doesn't fly for men's sports
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:53 pm to lsutiger2
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is ignorant and short sighted. Funny thing is no one says a word when talking about college baseball when the money it makes is pretty much insignificant if you are following yalls logic. Also nationally women's basketball is more popular than college baseball.
Baseball is very close to being in the black
Womens basketball is nowhere close
These are just the facts, sorry if that upsets you.
There is a difference in losing <$1M and losing $8M
This post was edited on 3/25/26 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 3/25/26 at 3:55 pm to ScootiniTiger
quote:not even close.
Most are just as athletic and coordinated as the guys.
There is a reason it took 7 of em.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 4:00 pm to Adam Banks
I totally support sustaining the elite success of women's basketball. In my opinion, the brand/program Kim Mulkey has created is invaluable for LSU in this day and age of women's sports. Plus, I've always been a men's basketball fan and would love to see them return to the Dale Brown glory days, but in the last 4 years I've fallen so in love with Kim's program that I don't know if even Will Wade (whom I love) success could eclipse that.
Unfortunately, in this day and age you have to spend more money to stay at the top, ie. more money on players for sure. Since women's basketball has been so successful- and the brand/marketing value of Mulkey and her program for LSU can't be underestimated- does anyone know that all conceivable creative and out-of-the-box solutions, including donors, have been considered that could eliminate the need for a budget cut to WBB? I don't know enough about the revenue sharing system to know if this is possible after the initial allocations.
Thanks.
For those on this board who always seem to be "in the know", how does the LSU WBB program compare to South Carolina, Texas, and UCONN regarding annual expenses/deficit/revenue generated plus NIL spent? If LSU has an 8 million deficit, how does that compare to the schools listed above who seem to be willing to spend the money to stay at the top?
Unfortunately, in this day and age you have to spend more money to stay at the top, ie. more money on players for sure. Since women's basketball has been so successful- and the brand/marketing value of Mulkey and her program for LSU can't be underestimated- does anyone know that all conceivable creative and out-of-the-box solutions, including donors, have been considered that could eliminate the need for a budget cut to WBB? I don't know enough about the revenue sharing system to know if this is possible after the initial allocations.
Thanks.
For those on this board who always seem to be "in the know", how does the LSU WBB program compare to South Carolina, Texas, and UCONN regarding annual expenses/deficit/revenue generated plus NIL spent? If LSU has an 8 million deficit, how does that compare to the schools listed above who seem to be willing to spend the money to stay at the top?
Posted on 3/25/26 at 4:00 pm to Adam Banks
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Well by your numbers from bama it’s save 3 million dollars.
They aren’t my numbers they are the numbers bama fans are bitching about bc they just had their coach stolen by south Florida. They will have to pay their new coach more or drop to the bottom of the sec standings.
I for one would be more pissed off about losing 5-6 million a year and getting blown out by 40 and being last in the sec than losing 8 million a year and competing for national championships.
Posted on 3/25/26 at 4:41 pm to lsualum96
Men’s sports is just an all around way better product to watch. Plain and simple.There is nothing wrong with saying that. I mean Angel Reese at LSU was considered elite and she couldn’t make a layup to save her life half the time. You never see stuff like that with elite male athletes. We don’t care if you watch women’s sports. We are just telling yall why LSU should back off some of the NIL from womens basketball to other men’s sports.
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