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re: Third and Chavis didn't do so well with his choices
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:19 pm to ellessuuuu
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:19 pm to ellessuuuu
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$1.5 / year for 3 years, guaranteed without any "Les Miles" clause. Yeah he made a pretty good choice.
Really, the Les Miles clause was put in so if LSU did fire Miles they wouldn't have to pay huge payouts to the coaches that were fired along with Miles. Now I have no idea if Orgeron would have kept Chavis if he was still with LSU when Miles was fired but he had a good track record at LSU so I am assuming he would keep him. So would he be in a better position now at LSU if he was still here or at A&M with Sumlin?
That is all I meant!
And yes I am extremely happy we traded Chavis for Aranda, Aranda is a better DC. That said we probably don't have Aranda more than this year and maybe next.
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:21 pm to LSU GrandDad
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hey dumb arse, chavis left before coach O was promoted. miles hire aranda.
Yes I know that stupid! It is what is called a "hypothetical situation" not that you know what that means.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:22 pm to LSUSkip
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Chavis wouldn't have worked for O.
I think you are right, but who knows. Either way we got the better end of that deal with Miles bringing in Aranda to replace him.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:23 pm to omegaman66
Say what you want, but Chavis had some incredible d's at Tennessee, in particular, the late 90's and early 2000's.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:24 pm to clamdip
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8 year olds, dude.
Ask your Mom I was banging her all last night, she knows the answer
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:33 pm to omegaman66
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Chavis was a very good coach for LSU. Nobody hated him until he left.
Didn't hate him then, and don't hate him now. Matter of fact I believe in the opposite, Chavis gave us some good years and I thank him for that.
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Chavis for being likewise pissed at Miles and leaving.
Well, you might need to bone up on your history. Chavis wasn't pissed at Miles, Chavis saw the writing on the wall that Miles was going to be fired because he had lived through a similar situation with Fulmer. Chavis even brought it up to Les that the situation and what Admin was doing with the contracts "The Les clause" was very similar to what they did to Fulmer in the end. He just didn't want to be stuck not getting paid his full value if Miles was fired.
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Chavis left because of the same reason people wanted Miles gone... he was hard headed and wouldn't change
I don't think that is the case. Chavis left because he saw Miles days were numbered and he didn't want to be stuck not getting paid his value "the Les clause."
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Say what you want but Chavis is a solid Defensive Coordinator.
Couldn't agree with you more and I never said he was a bad DC, I was just pointing out the irony of Chavis bolting for greener pastures when he felt Miles was going to be fired only to jump ship to A&M where a similar situation looks to be at hand. It doesn't look like Sumlin will make it past this year unless he goes 10-2 or 9-3 and maybe 8-4 depending on how bad those 2 remaining losses are and to whom.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:34 pm to omegaman66
quote:He was on 1st and 2nd downs
Say what you want but Chavis is a solid Defensive Coordinator.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:19 am to Dudebro2
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While he was correct about Miles and some of Miles coaching staff not being long for LSU
And yet you decided to make a post dogging a man for being correct
Wow, u dumb
Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:04 am to Dudebro2
Only correction is the statement that Chavis has done well at A&M. Truthfully their defense is horrible and prone to giving up big plays. Very few defenses could have lost that game to UCLA. The dude had a 34 point lead and his defense collapsed. I think LSU has run at will on his defenses since he arrived in College Station.
Chavis is the most overrated DC in college football. If you throw in his disdain for recruiting and his sour personality you have true liability on your coaching staff. You sure didn't see very many LSU assistant coaches join him when he left. Good riddance. A&M did LSU a huge favor taking that clown off our hands.
Chavis is the most overrated DC in college football. If you throw in his disdain for recruiting and his sour personality you have true liability on your coaching staff. You sure didn't see very many LSU assistant coaches join him when he left. Good riddance. A&M did LSU a huge favor taking that clown off our hands.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:08 am to thanksjhester
Yes that "prevent defense" he called on 4th and 17 vs. Clemson was a work of art.
Clemson gained 18 yards and ended up kicking the game winning field goal as a result.
Yep. Pure genius at work.
Clemson gained 18 yards and ended up kicking the game winning field goal as a result.
Yep. Pure genius at work.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:16 am to Dudebro2
I just want to know when he's gonna pay the $400K back. Dude's a thief.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:08 am to DontCare
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I just want to know when he's gonna pay the $400K back. Dude's a thief.
After what I've seen, LSU should pay him the buyout, then offer to pay it again every year that Chavis stays at aTm!
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:26 am to omegaman66
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Say what you want but Chavis is a solid Defensive Coordinator.
Average Defensive Coordinator. Overpaid by any standard.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:28 am to Paul Allen
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Say what you want, but Chavis had some incredible d's at Tennessee, in particular, the late 90's and early 2000's.
Chavis has great D's when he has incredible talent. When the talent falls off, he does not adjust.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:30 am to Dudebro2
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8 year olds, dude.
Ask your Mom I was banging her all last night, she knows the answer
You just proved his point, moron.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:32 am to Dudebro2
He's asking Butch Jones for a job.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:33 am to KCinDC
Can't disregard some of the great Chavis defenses. Can't disregard some of the shite Chavis defenses.
It's like he's binary almost, or Chavis accentuates it... in both directions.
Give Chavis above average talent (or better) his defense will be spectacular (i.e. much better than average).
Give him average talent (as compared to his offensive opponents) and he will have a below average defense.
Chavis MUST have a good DL to function. Shutdown CB or CBs make it awesome. But he cuts his own throat with the poor recruiting.
If they would swallow their pride and copy LSU, at team like Arky (or TAMU) would be smart to get them a Austin Thomas/Tim Horton and have them recruit in Chavis' place like we have done with Pete Jenkins/Austin Thomas. However, that's only feasible if Chavis' reputation isn't damaged too much. Which it may be.
It's like he's binary almost, or Chavis accentuates it... in both directions.
Give Chavis above average talent (or better) his defense will be spectacular (i.e. much better than average).
Give him average talent (as compared to his offensive opponents) and he will have a below average defense.
Chavis MUST have a good DL to function. Shutdown CB or CBs make it awesome. But he cuts his own throat with the poor recruiting.
If they would swallow their pride and copy LSU, at team like Arky (or TAMU) would be smart to get them a Austin Thomas/Tim Horton and have them recruit in Chavis' place like we have done with Pete Jenkins/Austin Thomas. However, that's only feasible if Chavis' reputation isn't damaged too much. Which it may be.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:51 am to Dudebro2
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While he was correct about Miles and some of Miles coaching staff not being long for LSU, I am assuming because of the success he had on defense at LSU that Coach Oeaux would have kept Chavis on staff
Well, if Chavis never leaves, we probably never get Coach O. And even if we do, I still don't think we keep him after we let Miles go.
It was still obviously a mistake on Chavis' part to leave, at least for A&M. His defenses at LSU did well in part because Miles' plodding offenses often dominated time of possession. He should have known that downgrading to A&M's talent AND having to cover for Sumlin's "fail early, fail often" offense was not a recipe for success.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:59 am to Dudebro2
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I am assuming because of the success he had on defense at LSU that Coach Oeaux would have kept Chavis on staff,
That's a huge assumption. Chavis had basically quit recruiting from what I read, I doubt O keeps a DC who isn't recruiting.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:02 am to Dudebro2
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Wonder what ole John Chavis is thinking now leaving LSU for A&M because he felt job security for Miles and staff weren't long at LSU
Wasn't he right in hindsight?
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