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re: Think Lee gets some 1st string snaps during the bye week?

Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:43 pm to
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Tomm


I dub thee Sir Tomm....knight defender of King Jordan Jefferson....always do right by him and never sway from his side
Posted by grif82
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:46 pm to
Tomm = theDOC



totally obvious
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:46 pm to
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Then you are fricking blind. Florida's DBs were getting beat all night. You're just assuming this because JJ doesn't throw the ball before getting sacked. Most of those sacks were NOT coverage sacks. JJ has receivers and TEs open but just doesn't see them. He is horrible at read progressions and doesn't have the quick release to get the ball out fast enough on slow developing plays. Not to mention, his footwork and pocket awareness is abysmal.


Read dmitch's (Rueben Randle's brother in case you don't know) thread.....this is discussed in great detail. Very good thread, IMO

A). Show me where I said JJ was Heismann Trophy material. He is a sophomore, playing like a sophomore.
B). I have never heard a receiver say he was covered. NEVER! They are wide open on every play.
C). JJ is not a pocket passer. You know it. I know it. The defense knows it. So why the frick does Crowton stick him in the pocket on every pass play?
D). Why, with all the talent we have on offense, don't we have an OC that can figure out how to get them the ball?

What I see is an OC trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. So who do you blame? The young QB who isn't capable of executing the gameplan (also see the 2008 season) or the OC for not utilizing the talent he has to work with?

Blaming JJ for the horrendous gameplan is immature and stupid, IMHO. The guy is exceedingly talented......

LEARN THE frick HOW TO USE IT!!!....OR GET THE frick OUT OF OUR FOOTBALL PROGRAM!!!!
Posted by Killer Tiger
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:46 pm to
I know JJ is holding on to the ball too long but do yall really this Lee would do any better he wouldnt be able to escape the rush either that being said our main problem on offense is the fact that we cannot run the ball consistently no matter which QB is in there they are both young and need a running game for them to be successful ....it looked like we abandoned the run to early in the game
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 3:48 pm
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:48 pm to
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Tomm = theDOC


Tomm are you in bed with Murphy Painter too?
Posted by thanksjhester
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:50 pm to
Whats the least amount of points we scored last season with LEE? Whats the least amount we scored with jj(3). If the d would have been better last season lee would still be the starter.
Posted by brownjuco
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:50 pm to
I don't think anyone is saying that J. Lee would avoid a rush you moron...he's saying that he wouldn't have to because he would get rid of the ball...you guys are fricking idiots.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:50 pm to
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If the d would have been better last season lee would still be the starter.


Can't say that I completely disagree with this
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:52 pm to
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I don't think anyone is saying that J. Lee would avoid a rush you moron

I already covered that in an earlier post....you moron.



ETA: So you're telling me that we have clearly open receivers and we're playing a QB that can't throw them the ball, but we have a QB on the bench who could easily do that job but isn't playing?

Sounds to me like the problem isn't with the QB. Sounds like you're saying our coaches are fricking baffoons. Sounds to me like you need to be worried about getting rid of this coaching staff instead of obsessing over who is playing QB.
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Killer Tiger
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:54 pm to
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I don't think anyone is saying that J. Lee would avoid a rush you moron...he's saying that he wouldn't have to because he would get rid of the ball...you guys are fricking idiots


last year we could actually run the ball so im pretty sure that limited the rush and helped Lee out alot more than JJ is getting this year
Posted by Tomm
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:55 pm to
Still lying about me being another poster, huh? I do appreciate it. Just proves how desperate you are and just lowers your credibility...as if it could go any lower. Keep up the false statements. I really enjoy seeing how it makes you look on this forum!
Posted by Tomm
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:55 pm to
Geez, I think you just napalmed the guy!
Posted by Tomm
Member since Aug 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:56 pm to
I notice you quoted a guy who never met a lie he didn't like. Pretty much puts YOU in bed with him. My sympathy!
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:57 pm to
Punctuation?
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:58 pm to
No matter what you say about JJ vs JLee and what the facts on that situation are....the bottom line is that your posting habits over the last 24-48 hours have mirrored TheDoc's almost exclusively....I'm just saying
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 3:59 pm
Posted by grif82
Member since Aug 2008
8151 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 4:10 pm to
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A). Show me where I said JJ was Heismann Trophy material. He is a sophomore, playing like a sophomore.


Many sophomores have had success in D-1 football. Hell, Matt Barkley is have success as a true freshman.



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B). I have never heard a receiver say he was covered. NEVER! They are wide open on every play


People that were at the game saw receivers open all night. JJ just didn't see them.



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C). JJ is not a pocket passer. You know it. I know it. The defense knows it. So why the frick does Crowton stick him in the pocket on every pass play?


He's not a pocket passer. He should be rolling out even though it takes half the field out of play. This would be a good thing for him because he is terrible at read progressions/pocket awareness and his release isn't quick enough for him to be pocket passer. Allowing him to roll out would make thing must simpler for him.



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D). Why, with all the talent we have on offense, don't we have an OC that can figure out how to get them the ball?


Crowton needs to go along with coach Stud. He has a track record. His offenses get progressively worse after year 1.



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Blaming JJ for the horrendous gameplan is immature and stupid, IMHO. The guy is exceedingly talented......



He is definitely physically talented, but he isn't cerebral enough to have success against the speed of SEC defenses, IMO. The speed of the college game is just a few ticks too quick for him. That's why he holds on to the ball wayyy to long. He can't go through his read progressions fast enough and that's why he can't see open receivers. Rolling out would tremendously mask this problem.
Posted by grif82
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 4:12 pm to
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I really enjoy seeing how it makes you look on this forum!


you are the laughing stock of rant....just check out the HELP board.
Posted by grif82
Member since Aug 2008
8151 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 4:15 pm to
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last year we could actually run the ball so im pretty sure that limited the rush and helped Lee out alot more than JJ is getting this year


We can't run the ball for two reasons. We don't have a FB and a good interior line and because teams aren't scared of getting beat with JJ at quarterback. Team are stacking the box and not allowing us to establish the run game.
Posted by grif82
Member since Aug 2008
8151 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 4:22 pm to
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Still lying about me being another poster, huh? I do appreciate it.


How am I lying? I'm not an admin, so I can't check IP addresses and compare them with banned posters. We're just making an assumption based on the similarities of your posts and his. They are obviously similar in style.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 4:26 pm to
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He's not a pocket passer. He should be rolling out even though it takes half the field out of play. This would be a good thing for him because he is terrible at read progressions/pocket awareness and his release isn't quick enough for him to be pocket passer. Allowing him to roll out would make thing must simpler for him.

Absolutely. And that's Crowton's fault, not JJs.

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Crowton needs to go. His offenses get progressively worse after year 1.

I agree.

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He is definitely physically talented, but he isn't cerebral enough to have success against the speed of SEC defenses, IMO. The speed of the college game is just a few ticks too quick for him. That's why he holds on to the ball wayyy to long. He can't go through his read progressions fast enough and that's why he can't see open receivers. Rolling out would tremendously mask this problem.

Yep.
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