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re: Things many fans don't notice
Posted on 9/23/09 at 7:24 pm to LSUownsSEC
Posted on 9/23/09 at 7:24 pm to LSUownsSEC
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he coachin staff did a better job of getting JJ ready to play at this level than they did with JL last year
JL had one more year additional experience than JJ had, including a full 2 full fall and a spring camp. He had litteraly twice the experience as JJ had. Can you picture him on the field with the same level of experience as JJ. That would have really been ugly.
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Posted on 9/23/09 at 7:41 pm to Peachtree Tiger
JJ is doing fine for so little experience. He needs to set his feet though. It is a bad habit he has and he rarely completes a pass when he does it. Again though, he is learning. Me personally, I am wondering when we get to see Shep throw the ball?
Posted on 9/23/09 at 7:55 pm to Newgene
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I'm not seeing that. He stares down the receiver, usually TT, without even gazing at the other side of the field, and throws it at him.
Be careful, Yat will be calling you names. What an Internet tough guy he is.
I would venture to say I have "inside" information every bit as good as GG has that suggests that he is locking in and/or checking out of calls at the line of scrimmage to something safer. Maybe that is the second or third option being referred to by RJ? The one long ball RJ caught actually did appear to be JJ getting off a covered receiver and seeing him behind the defense. And I wouldn't doubt that Crowton is gun-shy about throwing down the middle after last year.
I really love all the guys in this thread praising a quote in an article by GG because it supports their agenda at the time. I bet some of the same morons hanging on his every word here have been calling him names for the garbage in the past. I really want to see JJ succeed, and clearly it is tough to go through progressions when your line is caving in, but I don't have P&G glasses on either. I see a 19 year old QB still in a steep learning curve, and when you have Moo State's radio guy saying they have weak CB's and watch everyone in the SEC racking up the passing yards on UGA, I just hope he (and the Wizard) can step it up.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 8:11 pm to Icansee4miles
Nobody.......REPEAT NOBODY!
Is hangingg on Glen Guilbeau's words. He attributed a direct quote to RJ Jackson who flat out stated JJ is checking down through his progressions. It don't get much more inside that that. Perhaps RJ is just parroting the party line, but until proven otherwise, I choose to believe him.
FY fricking I:.......It is entirely possible that the QB is going through progressions without gross movements of his head. You asshats cannot see his eyes from the stands or your couch. GFY's.
BTW: Replay is on CST right now.
Is hangingg on Glen Guilbeau's words. He attributed a direct quote to RJ Jackson who flat out stated JJ is checking down through his progressions. It don't get much more inside that that. Perhaps RJ is just parroting the party line, but until proven otherwise, I choose to believe him.
FY fricking I:.......It is entirely possible that the QB is going through progressions without gross movements of his head. You asshats cannot see his eyes from the stands or your couch. GFY's.
BTW: Replay is on CST right now.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:00 pm to Newgene
Where did the quotes come from? The article I saw with these quotes did not specifically mention Lee, but maybe I missed it.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:44 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:Sid just shut you bitches down.
Nobody.......REPEAT NOBODY!
Is hangingg on Glen Guilbeau's words. He attributed a direct quote to RJ Jackson who flat out stated JJ is checking down through his progressions. It don't get much more inside that that. Perhaps RJ is just parroting the party line, but until proven otherwise, I choose to believe him.
FY fricking I:.......It is entirely possible that the QB is going through progressions without gross movements of his head. You asshats cannot see his eyes from the stands or your couch. GFY's.
BTW: Replay is on CST right now.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 10:58 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Sid just shut you bitches down.
I'm calling BS. RJ has only caught passes in 1 game. He caught 6 passes vs Vandy.
#1 - loss of 1 yd
#2 - 29 yd pass with JJ rolling out to RJs side
#3 - quick out to RJ
#4 - 6 yds, RJ was the closest WR, directly in front of JJ
#5 - quick out to RJ
#6 - 6 yds, again RJ was the closest receiver to JJ, and curled back to him
Posted on 9/24/09 at 4:08 am to guttata
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Have you seen Miami's qb yet? He's only had 5 starts and he doesn't have as much talent around him as JJ.
He also played in all 13 games last year, whereas JJ had significant playing time in only 3 games last year. Jacory also threw almost 3 times as many passes as Jefferson.
That is a good bit more experience.
The biggest difference between the 2 thus far is there playcalling/execution has been flawless and Jacory throws a beautiful deep ball while Jefferson is really struggline with the deep ball.
Posted on 9/24/09 at 4:13 am to Baloo
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We have abandoned the middle of the field, but I think that’s by design so far. Lee had a crisis of confidence from throwing picks, primarily over the middle. Keeping the routes short and to the sidelines means that JJ is less likely to throw a pick. Right now, the gameplan has been about minimizing risk instead of maximizing game.
Eventually, that has to change, but you can certainly do that against weaker teams.
I definitely agree with this.
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Why expose JJ to risk if you don’t have to?
Because, like you said, this has to change. And I'd MUCH prefer to not start trying things out and trying to change it against good teams. I know the risks are higher, but so is the reward. I'd rather see him taking shots against the weaker teams so when we play the better teams, he has experience with it. I think that would make us a better football team down the road.
Posted on 9/24/09 at 4:15 am to Baloo
quote:Wouldn't that also raise the likelihood that if he does throw a pick, it will be returned for a TD? I'm hoping that's not the case, because god knows the morons on this board will all blame Jefferson because they believe the INT return is 100% up to the QB.
Keeping the routes short and to the sidelines means that JJ is less likely to throw a pick.
Posted on 9/24/09 at 7:08 am to King Joey
Something I noticed last night watching the replay.
On one of the plays where JJ almost got picked. He did stare down TT and the CB came off his man and jumped the route to the outside and almost had a pick. Immediately after that, JJ looked to the side line towards the coaches saying "my bad" and then put up 2 fingers. I can only assume to say he should have hit his 2nd read at that point. The 2nd read was KW (I believe as the announcer pointed out) who was wide open because of the CB jumping the route.
I would say it's good that JJ immediately realized this.
JJ is young and learning. He's going through typical growing pains right now. I think little by little he's starting to get "IT", but he's still got a ways to go. As the season progresses, I believe that JJ will also progress. Maybe just not at the rate that some fans want him too.
On one of the plays where JJ almost got picked. He did stare down TT and the CB came off his man and jumped the route to the outside and almost had a pick. Immediately after that, JJ looked to the side line towards the coaches saying "my bad" and then put up 2 fingers. I can only assume to say he should have hit his 2nd read at that point. The 2nd read was KW (I believe as the announcer pointed out) who was wide open because of the CB jumping the route.
I would say it's good that JJ immediately realized this.
JJ is young and learning. He's going through typical growing pains right now. I think little by little he's starting to get "IT", but he's still got a ways to go. As the season progresses, I believe that JJ will also progress. Maybe just not at the rate that some fans want him too.
Posted on 9/24/09 at 7:50 am to RobbBobb
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Could speak to why we have so many short completions. Hes immediately looking for the safest route, abandoning any choice of the 1st or 2nd options
Simply amazing!!! You always seek to find and promote the negative as it relates to JJ. Have you ever said anything positive about him as QB? Do you find any positives about him at QB?
How about you list the positives and negatives of both JJ and JL to support your argument against JJ as starter. At this point it makes no rational sense whatsoever. I would be willing to do the same and any others interested could do so as well.
Posted on 9/24/09 at 7:57 am to Peachtree Tiger
I dont know if this has been mentioned, but whenever the O-line holds up, youll see him scan the field and find a target. When his O-line gets bullied, which is happening too much so far, he's taking off or dumping it off. Give him all day to throw and he has shown he can pick a team apart.
Posted on 9/24/09 at 8:06 am to Pilot Tiger
I liked the little rollout TD pass he threw to Lafell. Looked like he sold the DBs on the route in the flat before going to JoJo.
Which brings up another thing, he can throw rolling left! Yes, someone actually bitched over the summer about him only being able to throw rolling right. So whomever that was, on behalf of Jordan Jefferson
Which brings up another thing, he can throw rolling left! Yes, someone actually bitched over the summer about him only being able to throw rolling right. So whomever that was, on behalf of Jordan Jefferson
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