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re: The rule that should have been put in place after OU in 2003
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:18 pm to Tiger Authority
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:18 pm to Tiger Authority
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It's not like the two teams that have not won their conference game and went on to play in the NC game performed well.
What was so bad about how Oklahoma performed in 2003? Yea, our defense shut down their high powered offense, but they were an overthrown pass away from sending that game into OT.
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:20 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:And they say that college football is the only sport where the regular season matters. Ironic huh?
Yeah we'll get to play in our own conference title game for the right to play bama again.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:21 pm to Xenophon
Agreed.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:22 pm to Tiger Authority
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Who cares if they play a conference title game?
That's a huge issue. It gives teams another chance to lose in some conferences but not in others. For instance, I would love for the SEC to announce they were cancelling the SECCG this year. It's totally unnecessary for LSU to have to beat a 2 or 3 loss team again after going through the conference undefeated in the regular season. Especially when they're going to end up playing another de facto road game against UGA.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:23 pm to medtiger
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That's a huge issue. It gives teams another chance to lose in some conferences but not in others. For instance, I would love for the SEC to announce they were cancelling the SECCG this year. It's totally unnecessary for LSU to have to beat a 2 or 3 loss team again after going through the conference undefeated in the regular season. Especially when they're going to end up playing another de facto road game against UGA.
There are times, 2003 for example, where our SEC title game was a huge benefit to us. So it goes both ways.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:24 pm to Starchild
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Here's a scenario for you:
LSU loses SECCG.
Winner of Stanford/Oregon loses PAC12CG.
1-loss B1G team loses B1GCG.
Clemson loses to USCe then beats VT in ACCCG
Who goes? Obviously OU/OSU, but who's the other?
Probably Boise. Certainly if it is Georgia who beats us.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:26 pm to Tiger Authority
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So it goes both ways.
And that's exactly why you can't have the rule that a team can't play for the title without winning its conference.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:31 pm to medtiger
Bama just needs to take care of business. LSU could lose to Arkansas, still make the SECCG, then lose to a two loss Georgia. At only one loss, Bama could be headed to the BCS, Georgia to the Sugar, Arkansas/LSU to Cotton/CapOne. That would suck, but that is a possible outcome.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:31 pm to medtiger
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And that's exactly why you can't have the rule that a team can't play for the title without winning its conference.
No, they win their conference. The Pac 10, prior to expansion, played everyone so a champion was crowned. The title game is what I'm arguing against. You don't have to have a title game in order to be anointed a conference champion. So the argument doesn't make any sense to me. I don't know if the current Big 12 is structured in a similar fashion but there will be a conference champion in that league, title game or not.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:32 pm to Xenophon
Why in the hell would anyone in the SEC wish for that rule to be put into place where year after year all the best teams are from the SEC?
If you are going to have this 1v2 system with no playoff, eventually people will have to realize that is definitely possible for the two best teams in the country to be in the same conference or even the same division.
I don't want to play Bama again, but really can it be argued that they AREN'T the next best team in the nation? I find that to be a tough argument.
Conferences are nothing more than just a pool of teams that play each other year in and year out. With the Big East expanding to fricking Idaho, they aren't even geographic anymore.
Bring on Boise!!!!
If you are going to have this 1v2 system with no playoff, eventually people will have to realize that is definitely possible for the two best teams in the country to be in the same conference or even the same division.
I don't want to play Bama again, but really can it be argued that they AREN'T the next best team in the nation? I find that to be a tough argument.
Conferences are nothing more than just a pool of teams that play each other year in and year out. With the Big East expanding to fricking Idaho, they aren't even geographic anymore.
Bring on Boise!!!!
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:33 pm to tiger1014
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Conferences are nothing more than just a pool of teams that play each other year in and year out. With the Big East expanding to fricking Idaho, they aren't even geographic anymore.
No, conferences are much more than that.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:35 pm to Xenophon
It would be funny if OK State loses to OU and then LSU loses to Georgia in the SEC Championship game and falls to #2! With Bama moving up to #1.
So you have two teams that did not win their conference playing for the National Championship!
How funny would that shite be?
So you have two teams that did not win their conference playing for the National Championship!
How funny would that shite be?
This post was edited on 11/6/11 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:39 pm to Tiger Authority
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No, conferences are much more than that.
Yes like ways to pool money and demand more for tv contracts, etc.
I get it.
But you shouldn't have to win your conference to play for a title in a system that picks 1v2. That ignores the chance that the two best teams cannot EVER be from the same conference. That is naive to even fathom.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:43 pm to tiger1014
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But you shouldn't have to win your conference to play for a title in a system that picks 1v2. That ignores the chance that the two best teams cannot EVER be from the same conference. That is naive to even fathom.
Well, the conference system acts as a vetting system in most cases. Case in point: last night's win over Alabama. They may very well be the second best team in the country, but they were unable to beat us at home and to me, forcing LSU to play a conference title game against UGA basically on the road to earn the right to play Alabama in the NC game is retarded beyond belief.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:43 pm to tiger1014
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This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 7:44 am
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:44 pm to Odysseus32
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People screaming this makes it look like we are scared. I want to see a re-match. What fun is it if there are no more obstacles.
Has nothing to do with fear.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:45 pm to tiger1014
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But you shouldn't have to win your conference to play for a title in a system that picks 1v2. That ignores the chance that the two best teams cannot EVER be from the same conference. That is naive to even fathom.
This x infinity.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:48 pm to medtiger
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This x infinity.
So LSU should have to earn the right to play Bama again by playing an additional game against a possible top ten UGA club basically on the road? I don't understand you people.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:50 pm to Xenophon
Who cares?! Even if they make it to new orleans...it's New Orleans! We don't lose there, that's our home turf!
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:50 pm to Xenophon
Yeah, that would be great. I would love to see a 2-loss OU in (who doesn't have to play a conference Champ game) over an LSU team that dominated all year and lost the SECCG by one point.
That would be awesome. Great rule.
That would be awesome. Great rule.
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