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re: The rants 2 favorite coaches helped get John Emery jr

Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:38 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:38 am to
Go count 2012 again.

Porter started a game for Lonergan

So:

Faulk
dworacyk
Collins
Lonergan
Porter
Williford
Turner
Hurts
Alexander all started games

Do you want to reassess Studrawa as an OC?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:39 am to
Deculus & Weathersby did not start any games last year. Thanks for playing though
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:39 am to
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Go count 2012 again




Lester's argument is unravelling with a little bit of digging? Shocker I tell you.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:40 am to
Weathersby definitely did.

But Deculus didn’t.

We player 7 last year but mostly because we played Charles at 3 different position.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:40 am to
Why am I counting 2012 again?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:41 am to
Cushenberry, not Weathsby. My fault
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:42 am to
Because we had 9 offensive linemen start and it is within the last 18 years.

Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:42 am to
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Lester's argument is unravelling with a little bit of digging? Shocker I tell you.


Have to give him credit though. At least he attempts to come with reasoning for his opinions, unlike a few other people on this board.

I think he argues the opposite of popular opinion, just to argue, but he presents it in a manner that leads to a decent discussion. He's not just making excuses, using hypotheticals, and name calling.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:43 am to
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Deculus & Weathersby did not start any games last year. Thanks for playing though


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Decalus


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Played extensively on the road at Florida following two injuries to linemen in the game.


LINK

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Weathersby


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JUNIOR SEASON (2017)
Started all 11 games in which he saw action … Missed games against Troy and Auburn … For year, played 661 offensive snaps and recorded 38 knockdown blocks …


LINK

Please keep going Lester.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50955 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:44 am to
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Cushenberry, not Weathsby. My fault


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Played a career-high 59 snaps against the Aggies … Significant contributor on the line against Texas A&M as the Tigers posted more than 600 yards of total offense with 250 coming on the ground.


LINK
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:45 am to
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Because we had 9 offensive linemen start and it is within the last 18 years.


Sammy, what the frick does this mean to you when you read it? Good god are you being serious right now?


LSU has started this many lineman only 1 other time in the last 18 years.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50955 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:46 am to
It's funny how the 2017 offensive line was able to plug players in (9 total, in fact) and continue to play well while 2018 completely fell apart having to do the same thing.

It's almost like the coaches did a better job in 2017 than they did in 2018.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 9:48 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78241 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:17 am to
Sorry, I misunderstood You.

But let’s talk about the underlying point:

Should we withhold judgment on Ensminger because we started 9 OL last year.

I’m gonna say no.

Because a bad offense is a bad offense. The OL didn’t help it but I dont Think this offense was ever going anywhere. Throw in the fact that Charles didn’t miss any major games and really only sat out games he could early on and Deculus was hammered in at RT by week 3, and I dont Think the injuries even compare to 2012 when we lost our LT like 2 games in, our RT 6 games in and our RG 6 games in for the season.

Yet we still judged Studrawa and fired him, and I say rightfully So.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 11:04 am to
Stud was at lsu for 7 seasons. Are you comparing that to one year under Cregg? Or something to do with Ensminger?

I’m not understanding the parallels I guess
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78241 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 11:14 am to
I am talking about Ensminger

Both OCs

Both had OL issues
Both had statistically terrible offenses
Both had 1st year starting QBs.

One we all kinda accept was garbage
One gets some kind of weird pass.

I will also predict your excuses

“Ensminger is a first year OC”
“Burrow transferred late”
“you’re gonna compare Collins to Brumsfield”

Realistically, I dont Think this offense was just bad because we had a bad OL.

It was bad because it’s a bad offense

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Both OCs


I’m sorry but I’m even more confused now. Are you talking about Stud or Cam Cameron?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:05 pm to
Stud.

I’ve been comparing the offense to 2012

So the OC in 2012 would make sense.

Are you unaware who our OC was in 2011 and 2012?
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:07 pm to
Stud didn’t get fired as an OC dude

You always off but Sammy come the frick on dude. What’s wrong with you today
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:09 pm to
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I've always said that a retard could recruit a top 10 class at LSU.
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VermilionTiger


And THAT makes you a fricking moron.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:10 pm to
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Stud didn’t get fired as an OC dude


Only because Miles respected him and quietly told him to pursue other opportunities.

He essentially was in fact fired, at least that's been my understanding. Am I misinformed?
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