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re: The Pro-O Propaganda Machine is Simply Amazing to Behold

Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:44 pm to
I have news for you and goofs like you. The axe you speak of was never coming. Never. Get over yourself.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:46 pm to
Bc thy are little litle bitches doing bitch things.
They don’t get laid.
They don’t have any friends.

Pretty much defention of loser.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:49 pm to
The recruiting class is "good," because while we're 4th in the entire country, we're also 4th in the SEC.

This may not sound fair, but we need to be consistently 1st or 2nd in the SEC. If not, how do we turn the corner? It doesn't just magically happen.

It takes a lot to be a special program. It's not unreasonable to ask the football coach to do the difficult if we want to get there.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 2:52 pm
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

The recruiting class is "good," because while we're 4th in the entire country, we're also 4th in the SEC.

This may not sound fair, but we need to be consistently 1st or 2nd in the SEC. If not, how do we turn the corner? It doesn't just magically happen


That's a bit of a stretch. If we are ranked 4th nationally, and the top 3 are all SEC teams, how much of a difference do you think there is between the talent in those classes? It is probably little to none. I see it as a pretty equal playing field, talent wise, between all involved. That's what we want. From there it is up to the coaches to develop that talent and get results on the field.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52224 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Bc thy are little litle bitches doing bitch things.
They don’t get laid.
They don’t have any friends.

Pretty much defention of loser.


Dynamite drop in, as usual.

The level of insecurity that you've reached can't really be measured. Having to call people pussies or bitches in every post has pushed it off the charts.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 2:55 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17746 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:54 pm to
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defention

Nice effort. Don't strain yourself too much on your next multisyllabic attempt.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:54 pm to
Hmmmm
What do you know? I agree
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26069 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:55 pm to
I hope O has a strong propaganda machine - it will help in recruiting.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

That's a bit of a stretch. If we are ranked 4th nationally, and the top 3 are all SEC teams, how much of a difference do you think there is between the talent in those classes? It is probably little to none. I see it as a pretty equal playing field, talent wise, between all involved. That's what we want. From there it is up to the coaches to develop that talent and get results on the field.


So where's our advantage if we're equal in talent?

Based on what I've observed, I think we need to be better in talent.

The head football coach's most important attribute is recruiting. If his best is only as good as our main competitors who hold other advantages in terms of player development or strategic expertise, then isn't it fair to say that we're going to have trouble eclipsing them?
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16712 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

C'mon man. 9 wins would in no way be anything close to "terrible." Missing a bowl game would be terrible, not playing in a NY6 bowl. Don't be ridiculous.

It wouldn't be terrible, but certainly disappointing. Despite low expectations preseason, I thing it's always a sliding scale. 2017 despite 2 horrible losses would have been more palatable if we beat ND and finish with 10 wins. Despite the "meaningless" tag I think the bowl games help finish the narrative on the season. The 2017 assessment would have been a lot different if we beat ND. The same discussion of 2018 (success or not)will completely different based on the Fiesta outcome whether people admit it or not.

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Top 5 is absolutely a great class no matter how you try to spin it. This is another ridiculous statement. I would guess even the most hardcore O skeptics are going to disagree with you here.

It's a very good class. The impressive part is we kept every commit, 2 remain unsigned, but were expected and added 2 really big late pushes with Ika and Raydar Jones.

The last piece to make this a "great" class is if O can get 2 more quality DL commits. There are other targets at other positions, but this is the emphasis heading to February and O has said as much.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

So where's our advantage if we're equal in talent?

Based on what I've observed, I think we need to be better in talent


The talent, if you judge it based off recruiting ratings, has always been pretty equal between the top tier SEC teams. Some teams have obviously done a better job of developing that talent (Bama).

Even with top 5 classes, while others are pulling in top 15-20, but developing it better, they are going to beat LSU. It will also give the appearance that those teams are just more "talented."

I believe the argument you are making is that the coaches aren't doing enough with the talent they have, not that they aren't bringing in the talent. That's an argument clearly many would agree with. It's also why you never will see me using lack of talent as an excuse for a L.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
7739 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:03 pm to
I only wish that i had more that 1 downvote for you sir.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:08 pm to
What I'm saying is I'm not expecting the head football coach or his staff to all of a sudden develop skills and talents that they don't have. We have to assume that what we see is what we get with them.

We have to be pragmatic. And that means that we have to accentuate the skills that they do have. We need to quit hoping that they morph into offensive geniuses. We aren't getting Briles or anyone else.

If recruiting is the main strength of this team, we've got to do it appreciably better than anyone else. If their best is only as good as 3-4 teams best, I don't see how we'll ever return to dominance. We're reduced to hoping we catch some lucky breaks.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16712 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

The recruiting class is "good," because while we're 4th in the entire country, we're also 4th in the SEC. This may not sound fair, but we need to be consistently 1st or 2nd in the SEC. If not, how do we turn the corner? It doesn't just magically happen.

We are less than 2 points behind A&M and they have all 25 commits and we have 21 (19 signed). Unless our remaining class are all 1*s we will pass the aggies.

Bama and UGA are on a different level right now as much as I hate to admit. Kirby learned to recruit from daddy Saban and he's doing it to perfection. He's actually pulled more 5 star players than Saban the last few years, but Nicky is ahead on total points. We don't have the money, the machine and the admin to do what they do and that rests with the AD more than it does O in my opinion.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

What I'm saying is I'm not expecting the head football coach or his staff to all of a sudden develop skills and talents that they don't have. We have to assume that what we see is what we get with them


That's what I'm saying. You thinking coaching up the talent is the problem. Not getting it. That's a solid argument.

We can sign the number 1 class yearly. If Bama and aTm are sitting in the top 5 though, we won't get a large enough talent gap to just beat them on talent alone. It will always come down to development and scheming to beat the other talented teams, no matter where we rank.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12963 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

The Pro-O Propaganda Machine is Simply Amazing to Behold



WTF is wrong with you? There is no propaganda machine. He’s received his fair share criticism where deserved from all segments of the fan base.
He had a good season and rang the bell on the recruiting front.

Want Les back? Want Fuentes (6-6) or Fedora (fired)?
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:16 pm to
Not a response to you per se oOoLsUtIgErSoOo. Just replied to your post.

Just wanted to say... This fricking thread has been entertaining but not for the right reasons.

I was impressed by the sub-arguments between posters that popped up frequently. Some deep (and at times hostile) stuff in those exchanges.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:26 pm to
I think signing the #1 overall class every year would absolutely give us more than a puncher's chance. They have to do what they have to do.

I realize that it's a tough ask but being special isn't easy. Some other schools may not need #1 classes but we aren't other schools. We are not developing QBs at a high level. We need to have a distinct advantage somewhere. Championships don't just magically happen.

I'm tired of this attitude that Bama's an indomitable force and we have to just sit there and take it. I don't know why people are afraid to ask that this staff produce far beyond what they've done thus far.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:26 pm to
Insecurity?


Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.


At this point it’s no reason to even attempt a logical coversation about this topic with you miserable fricks.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:27 pm to
Ya! The grammar police.
Thanks for your input.
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