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re: The Pro-O Propaganda Machine is Simply Amazing to Behold

Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:01 pm to
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Suggest an idea and then credit that idea to someone else as their plan. That's bold, even for you.


well what do you think he is suggesting if not that? where do you think he was going with it
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:01 pm to
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aTm has an elite recruiter as well.


Jimbo is an elite recruiter while developing QBs and running the offense.

Why is it unreasonable to ask that the head football coach here be better than him at recruiting?

Jimbo's multi-tasking and recruiting just as well as the guy we hired to only recruit? Does that not seem absurd to anyone else?
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 4:05 pm
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:02 pm to
Same routine? Calling spades a spade?
Why do does it bother you so? Seems anyone not in negatigers miserable catergory wouldn't get all triggered about it.....

So I should just Get the frick over people being miserable about LSUs Hc?
Ok, that’s sound advice.



Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:04 pm to
Says the guy who has too many posts to count in these threads.



Merry Christmas baw
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108746 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:05 pm to
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well what do you think he is suggesting if not that? where do you think he was going with it

I think he was saying that the head coach isn't going to outcoach other coaches with similar talent and that in order to win a championship he will need to have better players. In no way did I get from it to fire the entire coaching staff and start over again every 2 years.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:05 pm to
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Why do does it bother you so?

It doesn't. Just don't understand why you continue to frequent a board that makes you so viscerally angry. While the premise of the OP is kind of silly, there are plenty of people having level-headed discussions in this thread. Why can't you do that?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52222 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:06 pm to
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think he was saying that the head coach isn't going to outcoach other coaches with similar talent and that in order to win a championship he will need to have better players. In no way did I get from it to fire the entire coaching staff and start over again every 2 years.


The only issue I have with this is we've seen Edward's staff outcoach an opponent with equal talent. UGA this season was just that.

The issue is that while he's done that, he's also lost to a few teams with less talent. This is were he needs to continue to improve.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:08 pm to
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the guy we hired to only recruit? Does that not seem absurd to anyone else?


no what seems absurd is you think Coach O was hired to only recruit. He was hired to do all the things HC's do in running the program.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:10 pm to
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The issue is that while he's done that, he's also lost to a few teams with less talent. This is were he needs to continue to improve.


Yep. O is a master of the back-against-the-wall, nobody is giving us a chance type game. See: Auburn and UGA. It's the games like State last year and UF/A&M this year that worry me. Games against quality opponents with somewhat comparable talent where on paper we should win.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108746 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:12 pm to
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The only issue I have with this is we've seen Edward's staff outcoach an opponent with equal talent. UGA this season was just that. 

The issue is that while he's done that, he's also lost to a few teams with less talent. This is were he needs to continue to improve.

100% Orgeron didn't just outcoach Kirby Smart, he embarrassed him. A little more consistency and we have something special on our hands.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:12 pm to
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I think he was saying that the head coach isn't going to outcoach other coaches with similar talent and that in order to win a championship he will need to have better players


well I think you would agree with me that is some dumb shite to say right? Remind him that LSU crushed a team with superior talent that we played earlier in the season
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52222 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:14 pm to
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100% Orgeron didn't just outcoach Kirby Smart, he embarrassed him. A little more consistency and we have something special on our hands.


Careful with that. Gus Malzahn has also embarrassed Kirby.

As I said, Kirby is proving to be an average game day coach that makes some quite dumb decisions.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108746 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:15 pm to
Well, we also lost to 2 teams with lesser talent. I don't think it's written in stone that this will be the norm going forward, but beat a team with more talent and also beat the teams you're supposed to beat and that's a great season.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52222 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:17 pm to
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well I think you would agree with me that is some dumb shite to say right? Remind him that LSU crushed a team with superior talent that we played earlier in the season


Going 1-1 against teams that have superior talent is more than acceptable. Multiple losses to teams with less talent is not.

The latter is where Orgeron and his staff are still struggling.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:17 pm to
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he only issue I have with this is we've seen Edward's staff outcoach an opponent with equal talent. UGA this season was just that.


Coach Orgeron and his staff did even better, they beat the crap out of a team with superior talent in the Georgia game this season. This Edwards dude and his staff don't have shite on coach O

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This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:18 pm to
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well I think you would agree with me that is some dumb shite to say right? Remind him that LSU crushed a team with superior talent that we played earlier in the season


Football is a probabilistic sport. From time to time, you're going to beat a more talented team. Any team can have a good day, and that's what happened vs UGA.

But can you explain why we lost to UF? Why couldn't we score a fricking point vs Bama? And never mind the topic of screwjobs, why we had to bite and claw our way through the A&M game when we were supposed to annihilate them? How do you reconcile the UGA game with those games?

Our staff needs better talent so that these issues of inconsistency are lessened. If we're simply as talented, we're going to continue to see these mixed results, just like we did in 2016 and 2017. We'll have our good days, and continue to crap the bed when we shouldn't.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 4:21 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52222 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:19 pm to
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Coach Orgeron and his staff did even better, they beat the crap out of a team with superior talent in the Georgia game this season. This Edwards dude and his staff don't have shite on coach O


Ignoring the negatives is why you people get so angry when they are brought up.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:20 pm to
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Well, we also lost to 2 teams with lesser talent.


one of those games was bullshite from the refs. I think that's why we are still ranked relatively highly in the polls for an alleged 3 loss team because the college football world saw that game
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70764 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:25 pm to
Whatever your knock is on 0 one thing he has been brilliant at and I mean elite, is his propaganda machine. From his cronies in the press to the flooding of social media and of course his intimate knowledge of the fan base and ability to tell them exactly what they wanna hear, it’s incredibe. Think about what he’s done, he hasn’t improved the record, in fact over the last 18 years our win spectrum has been 13 to 8 wins, 0 has won 8 and 9 games, the fewest possible yet has the fan base believing that we are improving. He’s also convinced fans that he inherited a rebuild, even though the classes he inherited were ranked #2, #5 and #2 nationally. On top of that he’s got ppl claimoring about an uptick in recruiting when his classes have ranked #15 and #7. And that’s not even going into the phony promises he’s made about coordinator freedom, hit pieces on Canada throwing players under the bus, having fans cheer him on for it and fake OC searches. It’s brainwashing that Hitler would be proud of.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108746 posts
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:26 pm to
Not at least reviewing the catch/non-catch was ridiculous as was the Greedy PI, but other than that I didn't have as much of an issue with the other stuff as most people did.
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