re: The overturn

He broke the plane Lester. TD all day. And that was before his knee hit the pylon.

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fricking POOLAME - BAMMER FAN. fricking leave dumbass

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Be nice

Lmao dude you must be smoking some good shite. The rules are set. He wasn’t going to the ground when catch was made. Pretty straight forward. After catch was made he crossed the plane. Then goes out of bounds. How hard is that to understand?

in your opinion, would this play be treated the same if he fell to the ground afterward?

he taps 1 foot in and falls. Simple question

Every show today has said it was a TD, also one pointed out the catch in the Ohio State game where the ground clearly helped the catch was called a TD.

Every show also pointed out the TD rule, which alone makes it a td and the ground cannot cause a fumble rule, the catch rule etc.

The ball is dead after crossing the goal line in a player's hand.

So you’re comparing that to Barion’s? If he had one foot in. And completed the requirements. Which he wasn’t going to the ground. He jumped up had possession one foot in. That’s a TD all day too. They called that back aswell?

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the rule is different for a ball carrier than a receiver

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True! HOWEVER, the contention by most of us and the ABC official consult guy is that he WAS a ball carrier when he made a football move. He took multiple steps, hit the pylon which that and of itself should have made anything after that dead, and thus he WAS a ball carrier. The STUPID rule is designed for guys making diving catches where he has not made a football move. Anyone who thinks that the overturn was the correct call is WRONG! The announcers would disagree, the official on the field would disagree, and the ABC hired official disagreed. The person who disagreed was the CLOWN in Birmingham, AL who was probably eating Cheetos and drinking a Diet Pepsi....wait, do we know what John Chavis is doing these days?

An argument I don’t see anyone making is the fact that this would have been ruled a catch on the 50 yard line — ball is allowed to touch the ground in the process of a catch as long as you possess it. Ruling on the field was a catch… Barion stretched the ball over the pylon & had it firmly between two hands when he hit the ground.

If Bower’s play was ruled a catch/fumble, this is a catch by the same logic.

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Was the call completely at the discretion of Daniel Gautreaux?

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The white has ZERO say so in whether that is a catch or touchdown.

after a pass is thrown white hat better not take his eyes off the QB