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The only way Burrow wins the Heisman
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:32 am
is if he outperforms Tua on November 9.
That being said I would be thrilled just to have an LSU QB make it to New York. Good luck to Joe!
That being said I would be thrilled just to have an LSU QB make it to New York. Good luck to Joe!
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:34 am to texastiger15
he just needs to win the game, not out stat him
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:34 am to texastiger15
Needs a 2012 Mettenberger performance.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:57 am to texastiger15
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is if he outperforms Tua on November 9
And someone needs to shut down Hurts. He will have video game numbers by the end of the season.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:00 pm to texastiger15
If he beats Tua, he's got a shot.
IMO, Jalen will win it - they'll change the narrative to "career achievement" this year. All the 26-2 talk from his Bama years will play in. Poor thing deserves it.
IMO, Jalen will win it - they'll change the narrative to "career achievement" this year. All the 26-2 talk from his Bama years will play in. Poor thing deserves it.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:03 pm to sportsfan
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And someone needs to shut down Hurts. He will have video game numbers by the end of the season.
Yeah, all Hurts is missing is the extra gear and accessories people put on their create-a-player on NCAA '14.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:04 pm to texastiger15
I'd like to see Burrow have a long and successful NFL career, so I'm actively rooting against him winning the Heisman.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:06 pm to SCwTiger
It's going to be tua or burrow. Jalen can't win it
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:10 pm to texastiger15
The media loves Jalen, but it is going to be hard for him to win it after the last two came from the same school.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:13 pm to texastiger15
If OU is undefeated, and Hurts game(s) against TX mirrors these other games, it’s his. Media loves a feel good story and the guy has been nothing but class.
If they lose one of them, it will go to Tua or Joe if one team is undefeated.
If they lose one of them, it will go to Tua or Joe if one team is undefeated.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:14 pm to jsquardjj
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The media loves Jalen, but it is going to be hard for him to win it after the last two came from the same school.
I agree. I think there will be a significant want to not give it to an OU QB again. If anybody else is close stat-wise and/or OU slips up and loses a game or 2, I don’t think Hurts wins.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:17 pm to Hot Carl
I think the logical argument against Jalen is no matter how well he performs he's at OU because he couldn't beat out Tua for the starting job
Alabama has at worst a top 3 coaching staff. If they didn't think Jalen was better than Tua then who are we to say that Jalen is better? They have an overwhelming amount of data to support their position.
Alabama has at worst a top 3 coaching staff. If they didn't think Jalen was better than Tua then who are we to say that Jalen is better? They have an overwhelming amount of data to support their position.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:23 pm to SCwTiger
quote:I agree that Hurts is in the driver's seat for now, which raises the question.
Jalen will win it - they'll change the narrative to "career achievement" this year. All the 26-2 talk from his Bama years will play in. Poor thing deserves it.
Is it possible to over-recruit at QB? I know it sounds pretty silly to say but think about it. In the current age of the transfer portal, highly ranked QB's are much more likely to bolt than to stay. The fact that Hurts stayed an extra year at Bama before bolting is the exception, and most kids would say he made a mistake by staying given his performance so far.
It takes a lot of resources and time to recruit a top QB. Plus, your program reputation does take a hit when a highly ranked recruit transfers and has a lot of success at another program. It significantly tilts the recruiting talent from that class for both programs.
I'm not saying you don't go after and sign the best players that you can get. I'm just reflecting that sometimes recruiting success can backfire, particularly at QB. I guess it's like a lot of things though. Having 5* quarterbacks transferring out of your program because they can't break the lineup is a good problem for any program to have.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:27 pm to texastiger15
why is everyone forgetting about Trevor Lawrence? True, his numbers as of yet aren't obscene, but Clemson will roll through the season and Lawrence will have a big year.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:29 pm to bee Rye
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he just needs to win the game, not out stat him
This.... Based off of what we have seen so far out of both side's defenses, it will probably be a shoot out.... which will bode will for him (Burrow). So both qbs should get their stats.... but a W.... a W after 8 or however many losses to the gumps in a row, that will fricking catapult him to greatness.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:33 pm to atltiger6487
quote:No doubt, but Hurts has the whole overcoming obstacles story line in his favor. Too much of a feel good story if the numbers are anywhere close.
why is everyone forgetting about Trevor Lawrence? True, his numbers as of yet aren't obscene, but Clemson will roll through the season and Lawrence will have a big year.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:33 pm to Powerman
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I think the logical argument against Jalen is no matter how well he performs he's at OU because he couldn't beat out Tua for the starting job Alabama has at worst a top 3 coaching staff. If they didn't think Jalen was better than Tua then who are we to say that Jalen is better? They have an overwhelming amount of data to support their position.
Unfortunately logical arguments require logical voters. The same voters who vote a quarterback 9 years out of every 10 and refuse to acknowledge that a defensive player can be the best player in college football
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:33 pm to TDTiger225
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The fact that Hurts stayed an extra year at Bama before bolting is the exception, and most kids would say he made a mistake by staying given his performance so far.
Hurts wasn't eligible to play anywhere else last year...his options were: (a) transfer prior to the 2018 season and sit out the 2018 season at new school and be eligible to play in 2019, or (b) be back up at Alabama in 2018, have the potential to play some, graduate, and then be eligible to play at new school in 2019.
Either way, he wasn't going to take snaps for another school until this season. When a player is one year away from having enough hours to graduate (and then take advantage of the graduate transfer rules), staying an extra year is the reasonable thing to do.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:36 pm to studentsect
Not to mention he got tons of play time with Tua sitting the second half of most of the games
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