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re: The NC game was lost for one reason

Posted on 3/23/09 at 8:56 am to
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27721 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 8:56 am to
I disagree.

I say two words why we lost

Ty Lawson

If he doesn't play, I think we win.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87380 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 9:16 am to
I think the reason LSU lost is not Ty Lawson's points but ed davis' rebounds. UNC wasn't having a problem scoring without Lawson in the game, they were having a tough time keeping LSU off the glass. Ed Davis plays 25 min, get 9pts and 6 defensive rebounds which basically shut down LSU's offense.

Lawson doesn't get those points if Davis/Hanbrough don't get 15 rebounds. LSU out rebounded UNC 31-29 but UNC got some really big rebounds that started their fast break and gave Lawson the opportunity to make plays.

As far as Lawson, the two big threes he hit early in the second half were by far the biggest contribution in the scoring column. One of them halted the run LSU was on to start the second half.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40778 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Ed Davis


Stud. Hope he stays a couple more years.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87380 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 9:43 am to
did realize he had 9pts as well

krackajackoff
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40778 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 9:47 am to
quote:

did realize he had 9pts as well

krackajackoff


Thank that guy for trying to pull my eye out for me OK!
This post was edited on 3/23/09 at 9:48 am
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 9:47 am to
quote:

We lost because we phoned in the last 2 weeks of the season and played our way out of a #4 seed, thus playing a vastly superior team in the 2nd round than we would have otherwise.


BINGO

you catch the #1 in the third round away from their "other" home court, it might have been interesting like it was in 2006 ..
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87380 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 9:58 am to
everytime TJ put Quentin Thornton in the game UNC started trapping and making the LSU guards shite becuase they knew they were playing LSU 5vs4

why didnt Storm Warren play?

and where was that lineup that we used against the UK at the end of the game where MT played PG and ran two man game with Tas?

Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77356 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:05 am to
no game was lost for one reason, except the 2006 auburn game
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:09 am to
quote:

why didnt Storm Warren play?

He is no more an offensive threat than Q. It's still 4 on 5.

quote:

and where was that lineup that we used against the UK at the end of the game where MT played PG and ran two man game with Tas?


Our offense didn't lose this game. We shot 50% in the 2nd half and 45% overall. Our problem was stopping them from scoring.
Posted by NOLAtoChiTwn
Michigan
Member since Nov 2008
363 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:19 am to
i am no pro but, from playing with my kids, the easiest way to keep flow on offense and keep them from throwing the ball away, when they are in trouble while driving or posting; is to always move to where they can see me and yell for the ball before they get tied up. Not to be critical, but i seen LSU guards(some more than others) in lost games especially , standing at or near the top of the key, with players in between them and Taz-(Taz having the ball) and never moving to where he could see them, and yelling "here's help".

i had tech trouble watching on computer, so could see all the game, but personally i think TJ should let well enough along with CJ, and not having in so much in the strech, because he was not very strong and a TO liabiity but other times in the game or against weaker opponents play him, because he also did some good things . Yeah he had 4 blocks, but 5 TO's in the nC game. Were those turn overs in the final 6 minutes. Not critizing CJ, just saying- use probabilities
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93697 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:21 am to
quote:

They were also a better team this year. With this coach the future is bright.


Agreed. Admitting that the other team was better than LSU seems to be against the rules on this board.
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:25 am to
storm would have helped with 5 or 6 good minutes .. Q is just zero offensive threat and has been all season and commits fouls like a microwave .. he did a good job saturday .. but you're right .. it was 4 on 5 ... storm put up some points in the mississippi state double OT game ... UNC was just the first team LSU's played this season that actually trapped hard, challenged every pass, poked at the dribble and just had hands in passing lanes at all times ... i guess TJ was just concerned with marcus handling the ball in double teams .. he does have that dribble off his foot tendency ... guess he just trusted bo and garrett's decision making a little better ...

tasmin mitchell has got to work on going straight up with the ball in the offseason, puts it on the floor way too much in traffic, and has to work on his finese around the glass ... looks like he's playing hand ball sometimes inside or something .. also, awareness of where you are on the court .. how many times does he get himself literally under the basket and still tries to score ?
This post was edited on 3/23/09 at 10:27 am
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
6856 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:33 am to
Bottom line was that LSU just didn't have the horses to run with UNC for a full 40 minutes. With a lack of an inside game, LSU has to shoot lights out from the perimeter. While we did do this at times, we also went into droughts. Against a team like UNC, that kills you.

But, you have to be proud of the way LSU competed. They left it all on the floor, it just wasn't enough against one of the best teams in the tourney.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Bottom line was that LSU just didn't have the horses to run with UNC for a full 40 minutes.

When you look at it, we didn't have the horses to run with them for a full 20 minutes. They outscored us 17-7 to end the 1st half and 21-7 to end the game.
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
6856 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:54 am to
Maybe so.
But there aren't many people that didn't think LSU had a shot with 7 minutes to go.
I will say, that LSU did better than I expected in that game. I thought NC was probably going to skull drag us, especially with how the 1st half ended.
I think in the end, we got tired and sloppy.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7272 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 11:07 am to
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I think the reason LSU lost is not Ty Lawson's points but ed davis' rebounds.

+1
The game was lost on the boards in the 2nd half. LSU was dominating in rebounds through early in the 2nd half, but couldn't seem to get a rebound after the 7 minute mark. UNC was getting 2-3 second chance shots and typically converted. LSU on the other hand was getting one shot, and some of those were pretty poor shot selection.
Posted by treyk89
Member since Oct 2003
2264 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 11:29 am to
UNC didn't even bring their best game and they still won by 14. Had Lawson been healthy and had played the last few games, the Tigers would have lost by 20+.

But LSU did play hard. I'll give them that.
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