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Posted on 11/17/09 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/17/09 at 3:12 pm to
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sort of like God in Cleats Tim Tebow and Urban Meyer getting their asses handed to them by Lloyd Carr and Michigan? people forget stuff like that because it doesn't fit their argument



Dumbass, Florida's defense didn't stop anyone that year. I think either 9 or 10 of the starting 11 were freshmen and sophomores. They returned maybe 2 starters from the year before. Before the 2007 season started, Urban Meyer said that the inexperience on his defense was alarming. It's not as though Florida had any trouble scoring on Michigan.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 11/17/09 at 3:17 pm to
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Dumbass, Florida's defense didn't stop anyone that year. I think either 9 or 10 of the starting 11 were freshmen and sophomores. They returned maybe 2 starters from the year before. Before the 2007 season started, Urban Meyer said that the inexperience on his defense was alarming. It's not as though Florida had any trouble scoring on Michigan.


#9 Florida had already played 11 games and then had a MONTH to prepare for an unranked Big Ten team that was in the process of losing their coach in a very controversial manner

who is the dumbass? u r
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 3:44 pm to
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Thats why Saban can make a bunch of 3 and 4 stars play like 5 stars and why Mile has a bunch of 4 and 5 stars that play like 3 stars.


I wish he would've done this in 2000, 20002, and 2004...we may have won more SEC championships and NC's.
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 3:53 pm to
Florida never had a defense at any point in the 2007 season. Did they all the sudden learn how to play defense in the one month break they had? Besides, Michigan wanted to win one for Lloyd Carr. Besides, Michigan finished second in the Big-10. Outside of App State, it wasn't like they had any other horrible losses. Michigan only had one more loss than Florida and they both had the same number of wins vs. top 25 teams.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:00 pm to
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One could point to this and say Miles' first three seasons he benefited from coaching against UF when Urban was implementing his program and transitioning to Tebow and Bama was clueless under Shula.


One could point to this and say Saban's first three seasons at Bama he hasn't won anything yet.

Saban has lost three straight to Urban Meyer, and has been lucky to win a split against Les Miles during a period when LSU lacked an experienced QB for the last two years.

Saban was also able to build LSU during a time when Bama was under NCAA sanctions and Florida had lost Spurrier to the NFL.

In the five year period Saban was at LSU, he could never string a couple of 10 win seasons in a row.

While in the four complete seaons Miles has been at LSU, he has strung three 11 win seasons together.

NegaTigers pick and choose whatever stats tend to prove their point and ignore all others.

This post was edited on 11/17/09 at 4:02 pm
Posted by kgcTigerFan
Metairie, LA
Member since Feb 2009
56 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:08 pm to
LSU fan's "Perfect Season": Go undefeated and fire the head coach. I'm not saying Les Miles is the greatest coach in college football, but his record speaks for itself. I went to LSU during the 70's and have lived through a lot more dire seasons than last year's 8-5 record with a good bowl win. There have been season's thousands of LSU fans would have given their right arm to have an 8-5 record. And that was Miles' worst year. Anybody remember Jerry Stovall? Gerry DiNardo? Curley Hallman? Until 2003, I didn't think I'd live to see LSU win another National Championship in my lifetime. I was 5 years old in 1959 and don't really remember it. We've won 2 in the last 7 years. Now it seems LSU fans are spoiled and can't accept a down year or two, even when there are extenuating circumstances. (Like losing great players to graduation or early exit to the NFL, or having to play with inexperienced QB's because the GREAT QB that everyone wanted and assumed would be our QB for the past 2 years turns out to be an irresponsible troublemaker and has to be kicked off the team) I'm sick of hearing how we have the best talent in the whole wide world. Maybe they should play like it The coaches can only do so much. I think we've got good talent, with some obvious gaps, and the're only going to get better. Give Les Miles a chance. He deserves it and we will never attract the "perfect" coach because he probably doesn't exist and, if he did, he wouldn't want to come to a situation where he is vilified if he doesn't win the National Championship every stinking year! That's my rant,
Posted by coolmonk
Member since Jan 2007
1216 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 4:20 pm to
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im glad we can agree on this. as long as miles keeps reeling in the recruits as he has been doing we'll be good.


Everyone on the field (except one) is a Miles recruit, but we keep hearing excuses about the OLine, QB, etc. Um, weren't they recruited by Miles?
Posted by tirebiter
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Member since Oct 2006
10966 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 5:57 pm to
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In the five year period Saban was at LSU, he could never string a couple of 10 win seasons in a row. While in the four complete seaons Miles has been at LSU, he has strung three 11 win seasons together. NegaTigers pick and choose whatever stats tend to prove their point and ignore all others.


LSU was put back on the map by Saban and Les inherited a gold mine. After what you have seen the last two seasons do you really think Les could have built the program like Saban did post-DiNardo? I can only imagine Les playing converted TE's on the DL as Saban had to due to no talent at DE when he arrived. Kyle Kipps, remember him? Players now have to be moved from the DL to the OL because the positions were either underrecruited or didn't pan out. Barksdale, Hitt, Blackwell, etc. I have nothing against Miles, but you will not sway my belief that Saban is a better game day coach and can win with D like few other college coaches these days. Yeah, Saban walked into a better situation with more talent at Bama than he got from DiNardo, but Miles walked into a set program, too.

I am a middle of the road person, I see plenty of room for improvement.
Posted by lsu mike
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
8580 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 6:10 pm to
Plain and simple you are a f'n NEGA-TIGER

Quit wasting your time. Some folks on here must be married to Miles.
This post was edited on 11/17/09 at 6:11 pm
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 6:10 pm to
Most coaches don't have the luxury of walking into a program that is perfectly designed for any reasonable coach to win the national championship. Larry Coker comes to mind as well. Although Davis didn't win the national championship there, he put everything in motion for the successor to win it. Coker was good his first three years there, but once he got to the fourth year, things didn't look as good as they once were.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/17/09 at 6:18 pm to
Solid and fact.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10966 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 6:21 pm to
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Plain and simple you are a f'n NEGA-TIGER Quit wasting your time. Some folks on here must be married to Miles.


I think I am going to take your advice and just let it go. I have plenty of rational things to write but have more worthwhile things to spend time on.
Posted by rosiebean
Member since Nov 2007
2093 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 6:57 pm to
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LSU fan's "Perfect Season": Go undefeated and fire the head coach. I'm not saying Les Miles is the greatest coach in college football, but his record speaks for itself. I went to LSU during the 70's and have lived through a lot more dire seasons than last year's 8-5 record with a good bowl win. There have been season's thousands of LSU fans would have given their right arm to have an 8-5 record. And that was Miles' worst year. Anybody remember Jerry Stovall? Gerry DiNardo? Curley Hallman? Until 2003, I didn't think I'd live to see LSU win another National Championship in my lifetime. I was 5 years old in 1959 and don't really remember it. We've won 2 in the last 7 years. Now it seems LSU fans are spoiled and can't accept a down year or two, even when there are extenuating circumstances. (Like losing great players to graduation or early exit to the NFL, or having to play with inexperienced QB's because the GREAT QB that everyone wanted and assumed would be our QB for the past 2 years turns out to be an irresponsible troublemaker and has to be kicked off the team) I'm sick of hearing how we have the best talent in the whole wide world. Maybe they should play like it The coaches can only do so much. I think we've got good talent, with some obvious gaps, and the're only going to get better. Give Les Miles a chance. He deserves it and we will never attract the "perfect" coach because he probably doesn't exist and, if he did, he wouldn't want to come to a situation where he is vilified if he doesn't win the National Championship every stinking year! That's my rant,

While you could have used a few paragraph breaks in there, I totally agree with you. CLM isn't the best coach in college football, but he's not the slobbering moron that many ranters claim he is either. Nor is Saban the most brilliant coach in the modern era (a claim I've read on here a few weeks ago).

I'm not totally happy with this season. But to be unhappy with a potential 11-2 season...with the two loses being to the #1 and #3 teams (one of which needed the refs to beat our second team) doesn't spell doom for our program either. Sometimes there's enough stupidity and entitlement on this board to kill a person.
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 6:59 pm to
Give it up. The refs did not beat us. Yes the interception call was bullshite, but there was no indication that we would have been able to move the ball. Could we have won, yes. We still blew many other opportunities. Our defense also opened the floodgates in the second half.
Posted by rosiebean
Member since Nov 2007
2093 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 7:08 pm to
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The Most Logical Thing to Have Ever Been Typed on the Rant!!
Give it up. The refs did not beat us. Yes the interception call was bullshite, but there was no indication that we would have been able to move the ball. Could we have won, yes. We still blew many other opportunities. Our defense also opened the floodgates in the second half.

You talking to me? I've said more than once that I doubt we'd have one if the int call had been diff. However, we will never fricking know. The fact is, we were in the game until then, despite having key players out with injuries, and it took a shitty call to knock us out of the game, despite CLM's obvious deficiencies as a coach and Lord Saban's obvious and unparalleled superiority as a coach (just quoting what I've read here).
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 7:13 pm to
agree in totality with everything stated
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 7:14 pm to
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lucky to win a split against Les Miles during a period when LSU lacked an experienced QB for the last two years.


uh...they've beaten us the last two years...we havent split anything with them...
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16819 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 7:43 pm to
And Pete Carroll is 1-2 in his last 3 Pac 10 games, which isn't good either. He must be an awful coach.

Anybody can manipulate stats to make their argument. That's what you're doing.
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 7:45 pm to
While I don't think Pete Carroll is a godsend, he did turn around USC's program rather quickly, but going 1-2 in a three-game span is hardly the same as going 7-8 in your previous 15 SEC games.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:52 pm to
yeah, i have serious doubts USC will have as many problems as we have had next year...
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