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I've been following high school recruiting since 1878


Exactly how old are you? Who were you following? LSU didn't even have a football team then.
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Explain the verdict to me


1. There was no "verdict". This was not a trial.
2. The Grand Jury hears only the evidence that the prosecutor decides to give them. The defendant is not entitled to be present, either personally or through an attorney, or present any defense. The Grand Jury's only responsibility is to decide whether that evidence presented supports (presents "probable cause" for)an indictment on a criminal charge.
3. If an indictment is issued (in this case, for simple battery)the accused then gets a full trial.
4. Without being present to hear what evidence the Grand Jury heard (or did not hear)or what the prosecutor told them, it is impossible to know how they based their decision to indict on simple battery vs. 2nd degree battery.
5. The old adage is that any decent prosecutor could get a Grand Jury to indict a ham sandwich.

The bottom line: The prosecutor is in position to control the Grand Jury and get them to do whatever he wants, based on what evidence he chooses to present to them or hold back. Garbage In-Garbage Out. That's why prosecutors like to use the Grand Jury in highly charged public and political cases. They can do what they want and use the Grand Jury for cover.
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Serious Question: Exactly how does all this translate into his 'abilities will be needed' for LSU to win 14 games this year?


Serious Answer: Without a crystal ball to foresee the future, no one knows whether or not Jefferson will be "needed" at some point this season. The issue, therefore, is whether it is better to have him and not need him or need him and not have him. Is Mettenberger any more ready to play a tough SEC schedule this year than Lee was in 2008? Maybe he is. Maybe not.

Also, as has been noted many times, LSU players love Les Miles and play for him. Perhaps one reason for this is that he cares about them as people and wants them to succeed. Some coaches might just discard a player who screwed up like Jefferson did here. Les Miles seems like the kind of coach who will give players a chance to redeem themselves. If Miles just threw him under the bus and offered no hope of redemption (in football terms), perhaps he would lose a lot of the faith and good will of many of his players he has worked so hard to build up over the years.
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Is Jarrett Lee Still Haunted by the Ghosts of '08?


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He's 70/129 for 770 and 4 TDs with only 2 Ints in the past two seasons. So . . . he's been steadily improving for a long time.


I don't think Jarrett Lee is haunted by 2008 as much as a lot of Tiger fans are. They are the ones who can't get past Lee's admittedly dismal 2008 pick-six fest (as an inexperienced freshman). Has Lee been a great QB since then? No. Has he been inconsistent? Yes. But the same could be said for Jefferson. Lee has improved over the past two years. How much? We'll find out. But the image of a confused Lee throwing all those pick-sixes in 2008 is still the image a lot of people hold on to. They are the ones who are haunted by it.
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TM7 chose to be an LSU Tiger . . .
Let's roll with the dudes who chose to be LSU Tigers


:cheers:

Turn it around. How would we feel if Tyran Mathieu, or any other Tiger player, started fantasizing about a trade to another team? If we want loyalty and commitment to LSU from our players, we have to show the same loyalty and commitment to them, not talking about other players we might swap them for.
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Lee didn't lose the game


That's all I really wanted from him last night.

I would love for Lee to "blossom" into a great QB this year, one who wins games for us with great throws, etc. But I'll gladly settle for him being that QB who manages his game, makes the throws he has to make when he has to make them, but spends most of his time handing the ball off to Ware/Ford/Blue. You can only win as much as your QB allows you to win. As long as our QB doesn't lose the game for us,our defense and running backs can win it for us.
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Basically, what you're saying is.. girls rarely lie. Get that white knight shite outta here


Define "rarely". I have never believed the feminist line that "women don't lie" about rape. There have been too many cases that proved otherwise. The accused has to be given the benefit of the doubt. That having been said, I believe that most women are truthful about it.

Are you suggesting that women mostly lie about it? If so, get that Black Knight shite outta here.

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why is this about the girl AGAIN?


Because that's what they have to do to defend the indefensible. Every accused rapist defends himself by either denying that he's the guy who did it or by admitting that he had sex with her but "she wanted it". Sometimes they may be telling the truth, but usually it is just a way to put the blame on the victim.

A lot of posters on this board have proudly recounted their own sexual exploits with high school freshmen girls. They have a vested interest in defending their own actions. If Jeremy Hill was wrong to do what he did, they would have to admit that they were wrong to do what they did. In short, these posters see themselves in Jeremy Hill. It's no wonder they want to defend him.
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A 14 year old HS freshman is not the same as a 10 year old girl.


So you have a right to distinguish on the basis of age, but society doesn't? I'm "self-righteous" for agreeing with most of society that a 14 year old girl is too young, but you're not self-righteous because you draw the line a little younger?

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18 y/old and 14 y/old having sex is not the same as a 38 y/old man molesting a 10 y/old girl. ... Cases need to be judged on a case by case basis.


I agree that the facts of every case have to be considered. But this goes more to the issue of punishment, not guilt. If they had sexual relations with a 14 year old girl, they are guilty. What punishment is appropriate will depend on all the circumstances surrounding it. I'm not saying they should necessarily go to jail. Maybe there are mitigating circumstances. But that's no excuse for the many on this board who think that they shouldn't even be charged and seem to defend the "right" of 18 year old boys to use 14 year old girls for sex, if they can get it.
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Would be less likely to happen if she wasn't downing dicks 2 at a time.


You make my point. In the world according to you, the mere fact that a young girl engages in sex makes her an adult for purposes of sex. But this "logic" would apply to 12 year olds as well, or even 8 year olds! There is no minimum age of consent. If a boy/man can convince a child to do it "willingly", no problem.
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2 young men will have their lives ruined because a bunch of moral busy bodies want to tell other how to live


No. If they are found guilty, and if their lives are "ruined" because of it, it will be because 2 adult males decided to take advantage of a 14 year old child. Even if she "willingly" participated, she was too young and immature BY LAW to make that decision.

Society has both the right and the responsibility to protect children, even from themselves. There is no corresponding responsibility to protect adult 18 year olds from their own bad decisions, although many on this board seem intent on doing so.

The most amazing thing to me is the number of people on this board, and similar boards over the past week, who want to excuse these 18 year old males as still kids at heart, while treating the 14 year old girl as an adult! That's arse Backwards for God's sake.

re: Hill incident videotaped?

Posted by kgcTigerFan on 1/13/11 at 11:34 am to
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Yea, it does suck for the guy, but once again, pussy wins. Girls will get you in trouble


horseshite! This 14 year old girl didn't get these 18 year old boys in trouble. They got themselves in trouble by their lack of self-control.

I understand that some 14 year old girls may be sexually aware and advanced beyong their years, but their still children. Jeremy Hill is 18 years old. Those four years make a huge difference. Couple that with the fact that we are talking about older football players possibly taking advantage of an immature 14 year old girl's "awe" of football players (i.e. celebrity status) and their actions are unacceptable by any measure.

14 year old girls are NOT "fair game", no matter how you try to rationalize it.

re: LSUsports.net - Crowton resigns

Posted by kgcTigerFan on 1/13/11 at 11:21 am to
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Miles said that a search for Crowton's replacement will begin immediately.


Hopefully, it started some time ago.

re: Michigan is garbage

Posted by kgcTigerFan on 1/13/11 at 11:09 am to
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You dont announce a new coach saying that he was your 3rd choice.


No one is suggesting that he should have said anything like that. But there are ways to say that the guy you hired is the best guy for the job without denigrating other people with that "all that glitters is not gold" and "things you uncover about people" crap.

An highly compensated AD at a prestigious university ought to have the language and diplomatic skills to figure out how to do that. It can only be assumed, therefore, that the AD fully intended to trash Miles and/or Harbaugh.

re: Michigan is garbage

Posted by kgcTigerFan on 1/13/11 at 10:51 am to
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It's not the players fault our athletic director thinks hes the second coming of God.


Agreed. You convinced me. If Les won't hold a grudge against his Alma Mater over this(and you know he won't), why should I? Good Luck with the new coach.

re: Michigan is garbage

Posted by kgcTigerFan on 1/13/11 at 10:39 am to
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Cheer for LSU


Of course, but that goes without saying. :geauxtigers:

re: Michigan is garbage

Posted by kgcTigerFan on 1/13/11 at 10:31 am to
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he was definitely taking swipes at someone, or maybe all the other candidates he interviewed. I dunno. It was tacky and uncalled for.


As was calling the Michigan program "Garbage" and I think everyone here knows that.

Angry people tend to say stupid things. This thread was itself an angry response to the classless (and quite frankly ridiculous) statements by the Michigan AD taking a uncalled for swipe at Miles, who treated Michigan with such respect in this process.

My quandry is this: If I pull for Hoke to do a good job, for the benefit of the majority of Michigan fans who are way more classy than their jerk AD, that benefits the jerk. If I pull for Hoke to be a flop, that punishes the Michigan fans who agree that he's a jerk and want him gone. What to do??
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Not every person in the student section is drunk. Yes, there are drunk people in the student section but there are drunk people scattered all throughout the stadium


Absolutely true on both counts. My daughter is in Vet School at LSU and loves going to all the games. She doesn't drink and doesn't really like the extent of the "vulgarity" of a large segment of the student section. She worries that every good song the band comes up with gets ruined to the point that the band can't play it anymore. On the other hand, while I don't go to all the games, I have heard a lot of vulgarity from people of all ages in the various parts of Tiger Stadium I have been in over the years.

But as an 56 year old LSU alum who enjoyed every Tiger game for seven years while I was there from 1973-1979(undergrad & law school)from my "free" seat in the student section, I don't really like the fact that the student section has been made smaller over the years and that students have to pay for tickets now. LSU was my school (and still is in spirit)but it is their (current students)school now. Some people are just using the vulgarity issue as an excuse to take more seats from the students to have more available to sell to the public.

So the kids today just don't behave like we think they should. Now there's a surprise!
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Maybe because of the abundant level of talent Miles has to work with...?


True. Everyone looks at the talent (fairly consisitent top 5 recruiting classes)and blames Miles for not doing enough with them. But at least we have to acknowlege that Miles does bring in the talent. There's no guarantee that another coach would recruit as well as Miles.

So the question is: Would LSU be better off with a great coach or great talent? Obviously, we had both when Saban was here. But he's gone and he's not coming back.

As for our not "dominating" our opponents like some of the other top teams do, let's be fair and admit that our defense and special teams have tended to dominate our opponents. It's our offense that has been ineffective, largely due to the QB situation, and has repeatedly shot itself in the foot with penalties and turnovers.
If not for the three interceptions, LSU would have won that game easily and probably covered the 2-3 TD spread.

Miles is absolutely responsible, but I think Crowton is the real problem.
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Finally somebody posts something that makes sense.

That's exactly what is happening. The only thing that's kept the heat off of Crowton is that Miles keeps claiming responsibility for the mistakes.


I totally agree. Don't get me wrong, I also agree that Miles is responsible for everything that goes wrong and I can find no way to justify his apparent continued abdication of his responsibilities to Gary Crowton.

I read recently that Miles has once again talked about "simplifying" the offense because it is too complicated for the players. The real problem, however, is that the offense is too complicated for the coaching staff. If football is too complicated for the offensive coordinator and head coach, how can we expect the players to get it?

But I do think that Les is a delegator that lets his coordinators run the show. Whether this is because he trusts them or because he doesn't know enough to make the decisions himself will always be the debate, particularly since Les is not the kind of guy who is going to publicly throw Crowton under the bus. It wouldn't do him any good anyway. As head coach, he is responsible. He's really can't (and won't) fire Crowton mid-season, but he's got to find a replacement for Crowton after this season is over.
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An undeniable truth of life is that you never try to outsmart common sense. Especially when you're not very smart. That is excatly what happened at the end of the game


I read that, once again, Les Miles is saying that they need to "simplify" the offense. Whether that's for JJ or the entire offensive unit, I'm not sure. But, as confused as JJ and the offense seemed to be at the end of this game, I don't think they were any more confused than Miles and Crowton. Maybe they need to find a way to "simplify" the game for themselves.

It's pretty scary to think that football is just a little too difficult for the head coach and offensive coordinator to understand. 92,000+ people in the stands (plus millions(?)more watching on TV knew that there was not time to run in all those subs while the clock was running and that JJ should have been sent in with clear instructions on what to do if the 2nd down run didn't score: Line up quickly with the same personnel and throw a safe pass (no sack-no interception)on third. If incomplete, the clock stops and you still have the 4th down play to run at relative leisure. Too bad Miles and Crowton couldn't figure this out.