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re: The last 50 seconds of regulation time.

Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Pianoman
New Iberia
Member since Dec 2003
2874 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:51 am to
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How many times have games been lost or tied with 2 minutes or less under chavis? It seems to happen far too often.


WHY, WHY DO WE DO THIS??? If we stopped them ALL night long before, why do we feel we need to ease up on them and let them make easy yards?? I could see if there was 10 seconds left but not with 50....that's still a lot of time. And then the TV announcers make it seem like Bama orchestrated a drive when they had to.....no, LSU simply outsmarted themselves yet again with prevent defense.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 8:55 am
Posted by LSUNO
the NO
Member since Jan 2007
866 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 9:52 am to
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Center Ryan Kelly said the Tide practice those two-minute scenarios against the first-team defense every Thursday, right down to the clock play they ran Saturday to save precious time and, as an extra benefit, ensure a Christion Jones catch that may or may not have touched the ground did not get reviewed.


Same coaching as two years ago by both LSU and Alabama, same outcome. That quote is from the Sports Illustrated article.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
35402 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 9:55 am to
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LSU simply outsmarted themselves yet again with prevent defense.


LSU was NOT in a prevent defense. It was discussed by several people in various places who actually know football. Hanagriff and Risher discussed it in the post game. Gordy talked about it during the game broadcast. If LSU makes ONE tackle in bounds when they have a chance, Alabama runs out of time or is forced to kick a much longer field goal.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7576 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:00 am to


L M is a good coach, not great he will get eaten up by an as more than he will prevail. His offensive mindset is too conservative and always be.

Just like in 2012 we allowed the receivers to get out of bounds, this will never change as well

Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:05 am to
What you're saying is Bama needed a "perfect storm" of their good play and our bad play to pull it off and that's exactly what happened......AGAIN!!!!!

Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38828 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:08 am to
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as an extra benefit, ensure a Christion Jones catch that may or may not have touched the ground did not get reviewed.


This is really the only thing that pisses me off. Why do they not stop play and let that be reviewed is complete bullshite. If the object of replay is to get the call the right, then that needs to be looked at.
Posted by IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Arlington, TX
Member since Aug 2011
4516 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:11 am to
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If Mills wrecks Sims on that 3rd down, it was ball game. He was not far off, perfectly timed.


That was the play of the game. Perfectly called blitz and Mills came in out of control like a wild boar, and lost contain. All he had to do was keep Sims from getting outside. Sims was basically boxed in If Mills breakdown and hold the edge. That would have been ball game.

We can blame the coaches and refs all we want, but sometimes players have to make plays.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 10:15 am
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7699 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:12 am to
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We went to the prevent defense also. CB's were playing 10-12 yards off. Giving them everything underneath.


We did not.

First two plays, we blitzed from the QB's left side.

Smart play would have been prevent type defense, playing man on Cooper, and making Bama throw a short pass to the middle of the field (which Bama did, to the TE), then tackle the receiver inbounds to keep the clock moving.

Nope, we blitzed and a DB could not get the TE down by himself. TE got out of bounds.

Prevent isn't the reason. Go look.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6607 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:13 am to
We need to quit crying about the game. The last 50 seconds should have been LSU defense at its finest to lead to a win. Saban lit a fire under his team that something had to be done if they didn't want to get embarassed, and they did it. We do not have that fire/killer instinct in our coaching staff. Dropped passes, inability to make tackles in bounds, no discipline when being taunted. Think the call was baited? Hell yes it was. Our players should have had smarts enough not to bite!

Players have to be taught to play to WIN. Play smart and DO YOUR DAMN JOB! When opportunities came up for players to keep momentum going, they were squandered. Unacceptable for winners - bottom line.

LSU had the lead and Bama was down with no time outs. What else do you want?? Bama decided they wanted to win the game and made it happen.

Like I told my son after the game - QUIT YOUR DAMN CRYING. We lost the game because the foot wasn't put on the neck when the chance presented itself.
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2353 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:21 am to
From the fumble forward the entire team completely lost their heads. It was mistake after mistake from that point forward. Just too bad they didn't have the leadership to finish the job.

Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7347 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:25 am to
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What about squib kicking it? Stupidest play in football, and it is Miles favorite late game kicking approach.


Miles called for it to be kicked into or out of the end zone.Kicker crapped his pants.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18503 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:26 am to


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We went to the prevent defense also. CB's were playing 10-12 yards off. Giving them everything underneath


THIS ! That is exactly what happened last year vs Bama. We backed off the line of scrimmage and gave them the yards down the field. I am no John Chavis, but DAM! Kinda makes you scratch your head...
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6152 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:29 am to
Sad to squander an unbelievable defensive effort, only to make the same mistake at the end of a close game again.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80489 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:31 am to
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LSU was NOT in a prevent defense.

True but on this board, any defense that doesn't work is "prevent"
Posted by LoyalTiger
Member since Feb 2007
1498 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:33 am to
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What about squib kicking it? Stupidest play in football, and it is Miles favorite late game kicking approach.


Good try, but he was told to kick it out of the endzone.
Posted by LoyalTiger
Member since Feb 2007
1498 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:34 am to
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We went to the prevent defense also. CB's were playing 10-12 yards off. Giving them everything underneath.


Did you not see us blitzing that entire drive?
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6607 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:43 am to
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any defense that doesn't work is "prevent"

You hit the nail on the head, but it didn't look like the same defense that had allowed 40 yards of offense in the second half. Prevent must mean "prevent a win".
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22759 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:50 am to
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We learned zero from 2012
It boggles the mind to watch the same patterns, the same mistakes, the same dumb penalties by "no sense or self-control" players this late in the season and realize they are simply replays of other recent seasons' same old stuff. I don't understand why this otherwise pretty savvy coach can't connect the dots and make the needed adjustments, changes, etc. But for one word (or two) stubborn and complacent.
Posted by BugaNoSuga
The Nation of Buga
Member since Aug 2014
69 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:41 am to
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Posted by StadiumDormRat'72
BR,LA
Member since Sep 2012
2942 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:59 am to
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I think his point was that Miles has thrown kids under the bus before?


Name one player Miles has EVER "thrown under the bus"....he didn't do that in this case, and he NEVER has.
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