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re: The last 50 seconds of regulation time.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:51 am to TigerCub
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:51 am to TigerCub
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How many times have games been lost or tied with 2 minutes or less under chavis? It seems to happen far too often.
WHY, WHY DO WE DO THIS??? If we stopped them ALL night long before, why do we feel we need to ease up on them and let them make easy yards?? I could see if there was 10 seconds left but not with 50....that's still a lot of time. And then the TV announcers make it seem like Bama orchestrated a drive when they had to.....no, LSU simply outsmarted themselves yet again with prevent defense.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 8:55 am
Posted on 11/10/14 at 9:52 am to Tiger71
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Center Ryan Kelly said the Tide practice those two-minute scenarios against the first-team defense every Thursday, right down to the clock play they ran Saturday to save precious time and, as an extra benefit, ensure a Christion Jones catch that may or may not have touched the ground did not get reviewed.
Same coaching as two years ago by both LSU and Alabama, same outcome. That quote is from the Sports Illustrated article.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 9:55 am to Pianoman
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LSU simply outsmarted themselves yet again with prevent defense.
LSU was NOT in a prevent defense. It was discussed by several people in various places who actually know football. Hanagriff and Risher discussed it in the post game. Gordy talked about it during the game broadcast. If LSU makes ONE tackle in bounds when they have a chance, Alabama runs out of time or is forced to kick a much longer field goal.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:00 am to Tiger71
L M is a good coach, not great he will get eaten up by an as more than he will prevail. His offensive mindset is too conservative and always be.
Just like in 2012 we allowed the receivers to get out of bounds, this will never change as well


Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:05 am to namvet6566
What you're saying is Bama needed a "perfect storm" of their good play and our bad play to pull it off and that's exactly what happened......AGAIN!!!!!

Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:08 am to LSUNO
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as an extra benefit, ensure a Christion Jones catch that may or may not have touched the ground did not get reviewed.
This is really the only thing that pisses me off. Why do they not stop play and let that be reviewed is complete bullshite. If the object of replay is to get the call the right, then that needs to be looked at.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:11 am to easy money
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If Mills wrecks Sims on that 3rd down, it was ball game. He was not far off, perfectly timed.
That was the play of the game. Perfectly called blitz and Mills came in out of control like a wild boar, and lost contain. All he had to do was keep Sims from getting outside. Sims was basically boxed in If Mills breakdown and hold the edge. That would have been ball game.
We can blame the coaches and refs all we want, but sometimes players have to make plays.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:12 am to Jenar Boy
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We went to the prevent defense also. CB's were playing 10-12 yards off. Giving them everything underneath.
We did not.
First two plays, we blitzed from the QB's left side.
Smart play would have been prevent type defense, playing man on Cooper, and making Bama throw a short pass to the middle of the field (which Bama did, to the TE), then tackle the receiver inbounds to keep the clock moving.
Nope, we blitzed and a DB could not get the TE down by himself. TE got out of bounds.
Prevent isn't the reason. Go look.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:13 am to Tiger71
We need to quit crying about the game. The last 50 seconds should have been LSU defense at its finest to lead to a win. Saban lit a fire under his team that something had to be done if they didn't want to get embarassed, and they did it. We do not have that fire/killer instinct in our coaching staff. Dropped passes, inability to make tackles in bounds, no discipline when being taunted. Think the call was baited? Hell yes it was. Our players should have had smarts enough not to bite!
Players have to be taught to play to WIN. Play smart and DO YOUR DAMN JOB! When opportunities came up for players to keep momentum going, they were squandered. Unacceptable for winners - bottom line.
LSU had the lead and Bama was down with no time outs. What else do you want?? Bama decided they wanted to win the game and made it happen.
Like I told my son after the game - QUIT YOUR DAMN CRYING. We lost the game because the foot wasn't put on the neck when the chance presented itself.
Players have to be taught to play to WIN. Play smart and DO YOUR DAMN JOB! When opportunities came up for players to keep momentum going, they were squandered. Unacceptable for winners - bottom line.
LSU had the lead and Bama was down with no time outs. What else do you want?? Bama decided they wanted to win the game and made it happen.
Like I told my son after the game - QUIT YOUR DAMN CRYING. We lost the game because the foot wasn't put on the neck when the chance presented itself.

Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:21 am to SCwTiger
From the fumble forward the entire team completely lost their heads. It was mistake after mistake from that point forward. Just too bad they didn't have the leadership to finish the job.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:25 am to lsutigertalk
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What about squib kicking it? Stupidest play in football, and it is Miles favorite late game kicking approach.
Miles called for it to be kicked into or out of the end zone.Kicker crapped his pants.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:26 am to Jenar Boy
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We went to the prevent defense also. CB's were playing 10-12 yards off. Giving them everything underneath
THIS ! That is exactly what happened last year vs Bama. We backed off the line of scrimmage and gave them the yards down the field. I am no John Chavis, but DAM! Kinda makes you scratch your head...
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:29 am to Tiger71
Sad to squander an unbelievable defensive effort, only to make the same mistake at the end of a close game again.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:31 am to LSUGrad9295
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LSU was NOT in a prevent defense.
True but on this board, any defense that doesn't work is "prevent"
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:33 am to lsutigertalk
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What about squib kicking it? Stupidest play in football, and it is Miles favorite late game kicking approach.
Good try, but he was told to kick it out of the endzone.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:34 am to Jenar Boy
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We went to the prevent defense also. CB's were playing 10-12 yards off. Giving them everything underneath.
Did you not see us blitzing that entire drive?
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:43 am to biglego
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any defense that doesn't work is "prevent"
You hit the nail on the head, but it didn't look like the same defense that had allowed 40 yards of offense in the second half. Prevent must mean "prevent a win".
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:50 am to Nissanmaxima
quote:It boggles the mind to watch the same patterns, the same mistakes, the same dumb penalties by "no sense or self-control" players this late in the season and realize they are simply replays of other recent seasons' same old stuff. I don't understand why this otherwise pretty savvy coach can't connect the dots and make the needed adjustments, changes, etc. But for one word (or two) stubborn and complacent.
We learned zero from 2012
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:41 am to Bugawithsuga
dick
This post was edited on 1/9/15 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:59 am to bradybones24
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I think his point was that Miles has thrown kids under the bus before?
Name one player Miles has EVER "thrown under the bus"....he didn't do that in this case, and he NEVER has.
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