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re: The job O has done this season is nothing short of outstanding
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:44 pm to whitefoot
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:44 pm to whitefoot
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But I think it's disingenuous to suggest that the haters didn't question his ability to put a single good season together.
Maybe some for sure. Personally my biggest worry was always that he couldn’t get over the hump but people are cool with it if we go 9-3 at best
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:46 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Miles made a habit of losing to Arkansas
And he was fired for
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If Eddie ever loses to a Troy again he will deserve all the vitriol he gets
And yet you call that righting the ship.
Do you see the hypocrisy?
Lets just stop. Neither one of us is gonna change their minds.
here's to a great rest of the season Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:47 pm to Boomshockalocka
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you are 12-1 and run the table in the sec with a loss to Troy that is a better season than the 12-1 with the one loss being in the SEC. that’s not debatebale is it.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Losing to a mid major is worse than losing to a p5 program. Good god
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:49 pm to bencoleman
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What would you call the years after 2012?
2013: 10-3 - shootout loss to Georgia, disappointing loss to Ole Miss and a loss to Bama. Overall, I'd call that 10-3 season a good acceptable season.
2014: 8-5 - disappointing season.
2015: 9-3 - most likely a ten win season if the cancelled game is played. Disappointing November, but we were undefeated and ranked #4 in the polls entering the Bama game. I'd call that a good season.
2016: 8-4 - That's an ok season. Nothing to brag about.
2017: 9-4 - That's an ok record, but a disappointing season considering how weak LSU's schedule was.
2018: 7-1 so far - It's been an impressive season so far, minus the Florida game. There's lots of football yet to be played.
I know guys like you want to run Miles and his record down and put o on a pedestal, but what o has accomplished so far since being named the interim head coach, is nothing Miles couldn't have done if he had been retained, in my opinion.
Now I'll admit, when o first took over at the end September of 2016, the team looked more energized. But that's nothing more than a wake up call that a team gets when a coach is fired, and a new coach is hired mid season.
It's happened hundreds of times in every sport that's played in America.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:50 pm to whitefoot
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But I think it's disingenuous to suggest that the haters didn't question his ability to put a single good season together.
Well, I've already told you that I was considered a hater before the season and have been called one this week. I thought we were going to have a good season this year. I would say it's disingenuous to automatically assume that there aren't others like me out there.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:51 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Losing to an Inferior program habitually is worse than a once a blue moon loss to a Troy state. Did miles even having a winning record v the lowly razrobacks?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:55 pm to whitefoot
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He was hired to get us competing to win the west on a regular basis again. Something that Miles hadn't really done since 2012
Right, championship caliber.
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But I think it's disingenuous to suggest that the haters didn't question his ability to put a single good season together.
I guess it depends on what we're defining as good. Posters were called haters for being disappointed with a 9-4 record last season.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:55 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Losing to an Inferior program habitually is worse than a once a blue moon loss to a Troy state.
You see how bad the troy loss is? You have to add sec losses to make it worse.
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Did miles even having a winning record v the lowly razrobacks?
8-5 against them.
Do you want me to lost O's career sec record against programs?
Arky at least had success during Miles' era.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You label me a nega
I've never labeled you anything.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:57 pm to TigerLunatik
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I thought we were going to have a good season this year.
Are you serious? You just said you thought we'd have 8 or 9 wins.
I don't care what the schedule looks like. 8 or 9 wins is NOT a good season for LSU!
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I don’t care about what O did at OM. Heinherited the emptiest cupboard in the conference and only was there for three seasons. Not enough time. And he didn’t get the support he needed from admin. And he wasn’t ready yet to be a head coach either unfortunately. This is a different Eddie. Clear upgrade from the last few years of miles.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:59 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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He was here.just about everyone thought Burrow and Tracy were massive upgrades to their previous counterparts.
Its seems you have a habit of creating other poster's opinions and then I told you so'ing those made up opinions.
Speaking of making shite up. You weren't involved in any of the conversations pre season yet you think you're an expert on them. The posters here know just who they are. If you weren't part of it and you weren't you can't speak intelligently about it.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:01 pm to whitefoot
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8 or 9 wins is NOT a good season for LSU!
Well, damn. I was told last year was a good season. My mistake then. I thought we were talking in terms of good, very good, outstanding and so on. Not as in its either good or it's bad.
Honestly, my position was always that if the offense could come together that this team could be really special.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:02 pm to nvasil1
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I guess it depends on what we're defining as good. Posters were called haters for being disappointed with a 9-4 record last season.
I'd call 10-2 this year good. Anything more is great to unbelievable.
Last year wasn't a good season. Going 9-3 and not playing for anything meaningful in November is nothing more than an ok season.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:07 pm to whitefoot
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Holy fricking shite. Are you on drugs? Talk about moving the damn goalposts.
Every hater on this board questioned whether he could "string a few games together" or have "a single good season.
This is football man. The sport is fundamentally probabilistic. The football itself can bounce in any direction when it hits the ground.
Anyone that asserted that there was no way Orgeron could ever go on a hot streak doesn't know what they're talking about. You're going to have to provide some evidence of me making that type of assertion, because I don't believe I did. You're going to have to come with more than incredulity to prove your point.
Gene Chizik won a NC and sucks right? Same with Larry Coker. There is evidence of a ton of coaches having some short term success. I don't doubt that if the stars aligned perfectly Orgeron could have a great season. I wouldn't put money on it but it could happen.
But I don't want a coach that can only have a great season. I want one that can have multiple good seasons. I would prefer a coach that could have moderate success in situations where most coaches would not. There is still serious doubt that he can do that. That's the difference between a mediocre coach and a great coach.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:15 pm to Boomshockalocka
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don’t care about what O did at OM. Heinherited the emptiest cupboard in the conference and only was there for three seasons. Not enough time
He inherited a program with 1 losing season in 9 years and proceeded to have the worst tenure in ole miss history.
The coach youre shitting on inherited a program with 1 season of .500 or better seasons in the previous 13 years and immediately made them a better program.
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And he didn’t get the support he needed from admin.
You get support by making improvements to the play on the field.
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Clear upgrade from the last few years of miles.
Again, MILES LAST 3 FULL SEASONS
2013 3 losses good offense
2014 bad year
2015 3 losses good offense
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1ST YEAR
4 losses including 2 historic losses and a god awful offense
2nd year
A worse start than Miles last full season through 8 games a vastly inferior offense
There are no facts that back up your opinion
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:16 pm to bencoleman
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Speaking of making shite up. You weren't involved in any of the conversations pre season yet you think you're an expert on them. The posters here know just who they are. If you weren't part of it and you weren't you can't speak intelligently about it.
Yeah because you cant read the board unless youre posting. Just stop while youre behind
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:17 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Only as a reminder that season isn’t over since some keep are taking victory laps in week 8 because you are more interested in rubbing in the face of other fans and furthering this stupid narrative about O haters and “winning” an Internet argument. The goal is not to be content to contend in October
I agree that we should not be content. However, at LSU, if you are not contending in week 8, chances are you will not be contending in week 12.
Here's to contending in weeks 9-12!
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:18 pm to whitefoot
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I'd call 10-2 this year good. Anything more is great to unbelievable.
Last year wasn't a good season. Going 9-3 and not playing for anything meaningful in November is nothing more than an ok season.
Fair enough, and I don't disagree. By that definition, you probably did see more people than not question if Orgeron could have a good season.
I disagree that makes them "haters" though. Orgeron is still working on his first 10-win season as a head coach. If we get there or beyond, I think we'll see a lot more fans willing to give him some leash.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:18 pm to Goldrush25
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But I don't want a coach that can only have a great season. I want one that can have multiple good seasons. I would prefer a coach that could have moderate success in situations where most coaches would not. There is still serious doubt that he can do that.
I agree. But you said nobody doubted whether Orgeron could string together a few wins or have a good season, when the reality is most of the negas doubted his ability to do this. Maybe you really didn't doubt his ability to have a good season, but you weren't speaking for yourself in your post that I replied to.
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