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re: The job O has done this season is nothing short of outstanding

Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:59 pm to
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Did we face the same gauntlet of a schedule in those years?


No, but not THAT far off. Opened against top 25 Mississippi State (whose DC was Manny Diaz, coincidentally).

Then played top 20 Auburn.

Then beat top 10 Florida.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108829 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:00 pm to
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Did we face the same gauntlet of a schedule in those years?

SOS by Year... 

2010 - 8 
2011 - 1 
2012 - 11 
2013 - 11 
2014 - 7 
2015 - 5 
2016 - 4 
2017 - 27 
2018 - 9 

2010-2017
2018

That's from a post from SportTiger.
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:00 pm to
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LSU was undefeated at this time in 2015. Was that an outstanding season?

Our schedule in 2015 was MUCH more manageable than this year's schedule
Posted by JDoubleU
EBR
Member since Apr 2015
122 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:01 pm to
Phenomenal job! And, don't forget about assistant coaches!

Best of Luck on Saturday Tigers!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:03 pm to
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general yes. Conference losses are much much worse than bowl game losses. And the Troy was a toss out. Fluke.


Wow.
Losing to Arkansas looks way better than losing to troy.

I can't believe im actually arguing with someone that thinks 4 losses with 2 conference losses is better than 3 losses with 3 conf losses.

Ive seen it all from the O fanatics now.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108829 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:03 pm to
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Our schedule in 2015 was MUCH more manageable than this year's schedule

I'm not gonna try to find the strength of schedule at this time of the year in '15, but I would imagine we beat 2 teams that were ranked in the top 25 at this time in 2015.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:03 pm to
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Trying to get the negas to acknowledge this before the season was impossible. None of them would hear it. Their minds were made up. Most of them haven't actually changed their minds they're just waiting for a misstep


Why does anyone have to acknowledge anything more than we've acknowledged already? It's a good season so far . But there are events yet to occur that could color the season in a different light.

I don't think anyone doubted Orgeron's ability to string a few games together, or even a single good season. My concerns have always been about his long term viability.

I am surprised at the contributions that Burrow and Tracy have given this team, but those are not conditions that will persist for long. Orgeron will have to grow his own QB talent eventually, and he has not shown the ability to do that. That's just a fact and is cause for concern in the long term, unless you think he can make a living off of plucking disgruntled, already developed QBs from other teams.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:05 pm to
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can't believe im actually arguing with someone that thinks 4 losses with 2 conference losses is better than 3 losses with 3 conf losses



2 conference losses is better than 3 conference losses. Math much?
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Our schedule in 2015 was MUCH more manageable than this year's schedule


And the staff has done an awesome job SO FAR.

And many of us expect the staff to CONTINUE doing an awesome job.

It's just baffling to me why you guys are so hell bent on getting a pat on the back 2/3 of the way through the season.

This season has been so much fun and it's truly starting to feel like we're getting back to where we want to be as a program, but can't we finish the fricking season before we start jerking each other off?
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:06 pm to
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No, but not THAT far off. Opened against top 25 Mississippi State (whose DC was Manny Diaz, coincidentally).

Then played top 20 Auburn.

Then beat top 10 Florida.


We played at State and got those other two matchups at home.

This year, we beat top 10 Miami at a neutral site, beat top 10 Auburn on the road, lost a one-possession game to top 25 Florida on the road, beat #2 Georgia at home, and beat top 25 State at home.

You tell me which is more impressive.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:06 pm to
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2 conference losses is better than 3 conference losses. Math much?


OOC losses to Group of 5 teams can hurt a lot worse than conference losses.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:07 pm to
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keep seeing them bring up 2015. Has anyone brought up strength of schedule for the first 8 games of 2015. If I'm not mistaken the wheels came off after the bama loss. aTm saved Les's job. LSU has already had a loss this year I don't think that the two seasons are comparable.


You dont see the comparison because youre biased.
2015 we had a productive offense and had beaten 4 ranked teams and hadnt lost.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:07 pm to
We aren’t recruiting against Troy st and some
Bowl game opponent from across the country Bubba. sec games are much more important than your out of conference or non playoff bowl games.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:07 pm to
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I would imagine we beat 2 teams that were ranked in the top 25 at this time in 2015.

3

25 - Mississippi State
18 - Auburn
8 - Florida

State and Auburn ended up being unranked. Florida finished 25.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:08 pm to
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Rickdaddy4188


Jesus jumped up and down.

Welcome back my friend. When someone disappears for an extended amount of time like you did, it makes a person wonder if they've been banned or if something else has happened.

Glad to see you posting again.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:10 pm to
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Why does anyone have to acknowledge anything more than we've acknowledged already


Before the season none would admit that any of those moves could be considered positive moves and certainly wouldn't be a factor in whether the season was a success or not. It's the equivalent of deliberately poking one's eyes out to avoid admitting the obvious.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17753 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:10 pm to
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Trying to get the negas to acknowledge this before the season was impossible. None of them would hear it. Their minds were made up. Most of them haven't actually changed their minds they're just waiting for a misstep.


Why would any rational person acknowledge anything before actually seeing the fruits of their labor? Orgeron's HC resume didn't offer up much benefit of the doubt.

It's been a great season so far, but you just said yourself that you were going to reserve judgment until the season was over. That's what pretty much everyone else has been doing because we've seen seasons and coaching tenures unravel quickly before. That doesn't make anyone a "nega" or a "hater".
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108829 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:11 pm to
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whitefoot

Well, there you go. LSU plays a difficult every season. Last year was an anomaly. With a strong OOC opponent 10 out of the next 12 years, that isn't changing any time soon either.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:13 pm to
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Before the season none would admit that any of those moves could be considered positive moves and certainly wouldn't be a factor in whether the season was a success or not.

Let me get this straight - you're saying that no one said retaining Aranda, signing Burrow and signing Tracy were positive moves that could factor into whether the season is a success or not? Are you fricking high on crack?
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17753 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:13 pm to
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I can't believe im actually arguing with someone that thinks 4 losses with 2 conference losses is better than 3 losses with 3 conf losses.

Did you miss this place, Rick?

Good to see you back posting, man.
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