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re: The Fraud that is the NCAA and Vitale

Posted on 12/28/21 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11386 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 5:52 pm to
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This is not an indictment of Wilwade. It’s an indictment of the NCAA and the hypocrisy of that fricker Dick Vitale.


And yet your thread curiously began with a take down of Dale Brown. Fire away at the NCAA and Vitale, but leave Dale Brown out of it. If anything, Dale Brown was somewhat of a lone voice arguing against the NCAA inconsistencies. I don't see how anyone who closely followed LSU basketball in to 80's, as you claim to have done, can have an axe to grind with Dale Brown.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6502 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 6:13 pm to
Mighty convenient how the fake classes at UNC got left out of the article.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2040 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Dale and Collis Temple are bitter that Johnny Jones was such an abysmal failure. And even more bitter that a coach that they had no say in hiring is successful


This makes no sense. Even if they were bitter I can’t think of a reason to undermine the program.


Wade was caught by an FBI wire tap that was investigating a larger scheme. That is the source. Why make this shite up about Brown when Wade’s own words are on tape?
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
6830 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 6:20 pm to
So your thought is that you'll get Will Wade and LSU out of the mud by talking about another former LSU basketball coach who cheated? I'm a huge Will Wade supporter, but this thread is retarded. Take a break.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5005 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 6:35 pm to
I didn't accuse Will Wade of anything. I said "if" Wade and LSU get hammered by the NCAA, it will be his fault. His fault for being stupid enough to discuss his "strong arse offer" over the phone and put LSU in the crosshairs of the NCAA.

"You people" need to develop some cognitive ability before you post.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by VABCHTIGER
South Boston, VA
Member since Sep 2007
317 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:09 pm to
Zombie Bob - I can’t wait to boo Dale Brown on January 4th.

What a dick!!!!!!!
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:15 pm to
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I don't get the hate for Dale Brown. He is the most successful coach in the history of LSU basketball. He brought Shaq to LSU. Shaq reveres him. Shaq's son came to play for Will Wade. Seems like we should keep this all in house.


I feel the same way as above. I love Will Wade, but all the Dale haters I don’t get.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19450 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:15 pm to
I don’t understand the outrage.

Last I checked, its legal to pay collegiate athletes.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:21 pm to
Seriously? What a loser. You're going to boo an 86 year old former coach who hasn't coached LSU in 25 years?

Find a new team.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6767 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:27 pm to
It’s really odd. Anyone with a brain knows basketball recruiting is dirtier than anything. The reason Vitale and many are so pissed at Wade isn’t because he pays players. They all do. Will was just brazen and stupid enough to get caught on tape saying it. That’s what pisses off other coaches and basketball lifers. Everybody wants to eat the sausage, but they don’t want to see how it’s made.
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
3620 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:36 pm to
Walrus dick
Walrus dick

Eeerrrrrrrr
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68612 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:37 pm to
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think LSU's success today in recruiting good players can partially be attributed to Brown who put LSU basketball on the map.


I don’t have any I’ll will toward brown. But the flip side was we got sanctioned and had to crawl our way out if the wasteland because of him too.

We basically started over.
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1050 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:12 pm to
It is not cheating now
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25315 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:18 pm to
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Dale and Collis Temple are bitter that Johnny Jones was such an abysmal failure. And even more bitter that a coach that they had no say in hiring is successful.
I have thought that Dale, and his ego, is the type that could be jealous of any outsider that would do better than him.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19290 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:23 pm to
My issue with Brown is he was always attacking the NCAA...."those Gestapo bastards"... but he was just as crooked as anybody else out there. If he had just kept his mouth closed, an impossibility for him, his two-faceness would have gone unnoticed. He kept challenging the NCAA & they got the last laugh, as always. He was responsible for the birth of LSU's greatness & was also responsible for burying it as well. OP's point re Vitale is that Vitale wants to bury Wade but ignores his buddies, Brown being one of them, There is a former LSU baseball coach who has always called Brown the most vindictive coach he's ever known.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68612 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

OP's point re Vitale is that Vitale wants to bury Wade but ignores his buddies, Brown being one of them, There is a former LSU baseball coach who has always called Brown the most vindictive coach he's ever known.


I was banned from Twitter for going after vitale and saying his boys were all cheaters. I def agree with the op about the bullshite witch hunt from vitale when all his boys are dirty as frick, one running prostitutes.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 8:35 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33935 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

his boys were all cheaters


Exactly. They are just very good at it and WW got sloppy. I'm sure Coach K never once was around my friend getting new shoes every week and his mom a job at Duke with a house
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14496 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:44 am to
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Mighty convenient how the fake classes at UNC got left out of the article.


Isn't that amazing? For me that undermines the integrity of sports much more than paying under the table and there's no disputing this was done by Roy and the UNC basketball program, yet this is dismissed and rarely spoken of.

Dick never called for UNC to fire Roy immediately. If that's not hypocrisy....I don't know what is.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14496 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:50 am to
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There is a former LSU baseball coach who has always called Brown the most vindictive coach he's ever known.


Anybody who has really followed Dale his whole career knows this to be true.

Dale is a complicated person. He is capable of the most selfless acts of kindness that will never be made public, but he can also be as petty vindictive as anyone - remember the traffic stop incident when he was coach here?

There is no doubt that the relationship between he and WW is not good - he used to be at every game and now just now and then. What are the reasons for that - I have no idea.

But if it is because he is appalled at WW's recruiting practices....and I don't know that to be the reason...that would be the height of hypocrisy.
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