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The Cincinnati situation
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:13 pm
There are four 2-loss teams below Cincinnati, according to the CFP - Air Force, ULL, Navy, and SMU.
The CFP is simply saying Cincy has better losses than those teams. And it's true.
Cincy is #20 in CFP and #21 in AP and Coaches'.
Why the hell do y'all have a problem with this? If Cincy loses again this weekend, they'll be out of the top 25. If LSU beats Georgia, we'll have 4 current top 10 wins. We will, unquestionably, have a better resume than OSU. Then, they'll compare LSU and OSU's consistency - OSU clearly wins here.
So it will come down to whether LSU's resume out-weighs OSU's consistency. And I think that's possible and probable. We'll see - but to go the conspiracy route and say it's a plot to keep OSU at #1 - get out of here with that crap.
The CFP is simply saying Cincy has better losses than those teams. And it's true.
Cincy is #20 in CFP and #21 in AP and Coaches'.
Why the hell do y'all have a problem with this? If Cincy loses again this weekend, they'll be out of the top 25. If LSU beats Georgia, we'll have 4 current top 10 wins. We will, unquestionably, have a better resume than OSU. Then, they'll compare LSU and OSU's consistency - OSU clearly wins here.
So it will come down to whether LSU's resume out-weighs OSU's consistency. And I think that's possible and probable. We'll see - but to go the conspiracy route and say it's a plot to keep OSU at #1 - get out of here with that crap.
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:14 pm to TchPowDog
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they'll compare LSU and OSU's consistency
we consistently score 40+ points per game you mean
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:15 pm to TchPowDog
Resume outweighs consistency, and let’s not act like Ohio St. has been much more consistent than LSU, they haven’t done that if at all. Not saying there’s a conspiracy, but with a LSU win over UGA they are unquestionably deserving of the #1 ranking.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:16 pm to TchPowDog
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consistency
Seems about as meaningless qualifier as you can get for 12-0 football teams.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:16 pm to TchPowDog
MSB
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:17 pm to CAD703X
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we consistently score 40+ points per game you mean
And we inconsistently hold teams to low scores.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:20 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Seems about as meaningless qualifier as you can get for 12-0 football teams.
So a 12-0 team that averages 4-pt score differential vs a 12-0 team that averages 30-pt score differential with VERY SIMILAR schedules are equal to you?
Does this make you enter a mind-blown paradox or something? Other than playing each other, is there no other way of determining which of those teams is better?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:20 pm to TchPowDog
Do you think an American Athletic Conference team with 2 losses is one of the top 25 teams in America? Seriously.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:22 pm to smooth99
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Do you think an American League team with 2 losses is one of the top 25 teams in America? Seriously.
Depends on who they lost to - does it not?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:22 pm to TchPowDog
The problem is dropping 1 spot after losing to a G5 by 10. Meanwhile Alabama drops 7 spots for losing to ranked P5 by 3. Michigan getting beat for the 3rd time only dropped 1 spot. The bias is glaringly obvious. That's why some have a problem.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:23 pm to TheTexasTiger7
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let’s not act like Ohio St. has been much more consistent than LSU, they haven’t done that if at all
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:23 pm to TchPowDog
Do you think Cincinnati is better than Texas A&M?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:23 pm to TchPowDog
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If Cincy loses again this weekend, they'll be out of the top 25.
Why? They lost to the same Memphis team last week and they only dropped from 19 to 20. Based on precedent they'll be 21.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:23 pm to TchPowDog
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So a 12-0 team that averages 4-pt score differential vs a 12-0 team that averages 30-pt score differential with VERY SIMILAR schedules are equal to you?
What's that have to do with "consistency"? Do you know what that word means?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:24 pm to TchPowDog
Get over it and worry about stuff that matter.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:25 pm to TchPowDog
Dude stop. You are going crazy trying to defend the committee and Ohio State.
Cinn is straight garbage. Their losses are better? Lmao. The only two teams with a pulse they got smoked. They haven't beaten a team in the top 50. They escaped 4-8 south Florida by 3 points. They escaped 4-8 east Carolina by 3 points. They rolled mighty Temple by 2. They most likely wouldn't win 6 games if they swapped schedules with a&m. Yet, they are a quality win and a&m isn't. They would be significant underdogs to both Texas and a&m.
Just stop. We know you agree with the committee and secretly love Ohio State. But, stop.
Cinn is straight garbage. Their losses are better? Lmao. The only two teams with a pulse they got smoked. They haven't beaten a team in the top 50. They escaped 4-8 south Florida by 3 points. They escaped 4-8 east Carolina by 3 points. They rolled mighty Temple by 2. They most likely wouldn't win 6 games if they swapped schedules with a&m. Yet, they are a quality win and a&m isn't. They would be significant underdogs to both Texas and a&m.
Just stop. We know you agree with the committee and secretly love Ohio State. But, stop.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:28 pm to TchPowDog
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Why the hell do y'all have a problem with this? If Cincy loses again this weekend, they'll be out of the top 25. If LSU beats Georgia, we'll have 4 current top 10 wins. We will, unquestionably, have a better resume than OSU. Then, they'll compare LSU and OSU's consistency - OSU clearly wins here.
We shouldn't be sitting here saying "well if Memphis beat Cincinnati, LSU should be #1 over OSU".
WHy the hell is Cincinnati so important? They should be an afterthought, like Texas is now.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:30 pm to DollaChoppa
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Do you think Cincinnati is better than Texas A&M?
Nope, and this is where the CFP includes your favorite metric - deserving.
A 2-loss team is more deserving than a 5-loss team - wouldn't you agree?
The CFP uses all of these things to determine rankings. Y'all just give more weight to the metrics that help LSU more. Then you cry about it.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:30 pm to TchPowDog
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The CFP is simply saying Cincy has better losses than those teams. And it's true.
Just because one of their losses is to #1 doesn't make it a better loss. They lost 0-42 and didn't belong in the same stadium.
It would be a good loss if they looked like they had a pulse at least for a couple quarters.
Their other loss was to #18 Memphis and they dropped from #19 to #20.
And they barely eeked out victories against 4-8 Tulsa, 4-8 ECU, and 4-8 USF.
Cincinnati is not a good team and probably shouldn't be in the top 25.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:31 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What's that have to do with "consistency"? Do you know what that word means?
Absolutely, do you know in what context I'm (and the CFP) using the word?
OSU Offense - very consistent
OSU Defense - very consistent
LSU Offense - very consistent
LSU Defense - not consistent
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:32 pm
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