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re: The Cincinnati situation

Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:32 pm to
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A 2-loss team is more deserving than a 5-loss team - wouldn't you agree?


ehhh not always.

A&M has lost to #2, #3, #4, #11, and #12 I think. That is ridiculous

Cincinnati would get annihilated by all of those teams. A&M at least kept it close with a few.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12253 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:32 pm to
How many threads are you going to start on this.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:33 pm to
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Just stop. We know you agree with the committee and secretly love Ohio State. But, stop.

This right here shows how fricking retarded y'all are. You're a bunch of butthurt children.
Posted by Jamey21
Katy, Texas
Member since Jul 2019
750 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:36 pm to
LOL , I laughed when they were bragging on Minnesota couple weeks ago. Georgia Southern almost beat them at their home field.

LSU steam rolled Georgia Southern.

The committee wants a LSU vs Ohio state matchup.

They know Ohio state can't beat Clemson, so they are wanting LSU to do the dirty work and beat Clemson

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101591 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:36 pm to
But, how is that meaningful if neither have lost and neither have really been close to losing a game? It doesn't seem like it is really. Maybe one team was trying different wrinkles in the games they were winning and that accounts for it. Who the hell knows?

I'm not sure I understand how inconsistent stats amongst games that are ALL WON, versus another team that puts up consistent stats and wins, necessarily is any sort of indicator that one of those teams may be better than the other.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58121 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:37 pm to
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We will, unquestionably, have a better resume than OSU


Only until the committee rearranges the rankings to make Ohio State’s resume better.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted by kylesch87
Member since Dec 2015
280 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:38 pm to
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Just stop. We know you agree with the committee and secretly love Ohio State. But, stop.


Are all of the computers in the Massey composite in love with Ohio State also? Because Ohio State is #1 in every computer ranking but two.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64893 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:39 pm to
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The CFP is simply saying Cincy has better losses than those teams. And it's true.

And their best win is against UCF.

Navy's best win was against ranked SMU. Navy has losses to the same Memphis team and ranked Notre Dame.

SMU has a loss to that same Memphis team and ranked Navy.

So no, I wouldn't say Cincinnati has a better resume than SMU or Navy. They have a "better loss" because they played OSU but they don't have better wins. One of their losses (Memphis) is shared with both SMU and Navy.

I think Navy has a better argument and resume than Cincinnati but they won't get their due because of the style of game they play. Cincinnati would have lost to Notre Dame the same as they lost to OSU, so what are we really talking about here?
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10213 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Why the hell do y'all have a problem with this?


People have a problem with only dropping them 1 spot after losing to Memphis more than they do with Cincy's actual #20 ranking.

Usually, to only drop 1 spot you have to lose a heartbreaker to the #1 team or something.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47805 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:41 pm to
You used to come off as just mildly annoying.
Now you’re going full blown retard.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58121 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:44 pm to
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They have a "better loss" because they played OSU


Yeah, why should a team simply get credit for losing to a good team in a horrible beat down?
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:45 pm to
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Cincinnati is not a good team and probably shouldn't be in the top 25.


Well the CFP, the AP, and the Coaches disagree with you.

Which is more likely - Cincinnati is recognized as a serviceable, top 25 team by most experts OR TheCaterpillar on TigerDroppings has more information than everyone else?

Side note - Cincy not being top 25 helps TheCaterpillar's team in the rankings.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:48 pm to
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But, how is that meaningful if neither have lost and neither have really been close to losing a game? It doesn't seem like it is really. Maybe one team was trying different wrinkles in the games they were winning and that accounts for it. Who the hell knows?

I'm not sure I understand how inconsistent stats amongst games that are ALL WON, versus another team that puts up consistent stats and wins, necessarily is any sort of indicator that one of those teams may be better than the other.

Yes you are sure, you use this method of measurement in comparing any two teams that haven't played. You do this all the time - we all do.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101591 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:53 pm to
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you use this method of measurement in comparing any two teams that haven't played.


Nah, because it's mostly meaningless if a team is winning consistently. It really tells you nothing.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:01 pm to
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Nah, because it's mostly meaningless if a team is winning consistently. It really tells you nothing.

Nah, you use it.
Posted by GRIZZ
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
5244 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:08 pm to
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Not saying there’s a conspiracy, but with a LSU win over UGA they are unquestionably deserving of the #1 ranking.


How do you figure that? UGA lost to a piss poor USCe team. How does a victory over them somehow catapult us to the top? If we go in and blow them out by 21 or more, I can see the argument, but just beating UGA likely won't be enough to make a difference in standings.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101591 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:10 pm to
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Nah, you use it.


What do you mean?
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10352 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:13 pm to
Run OSU through the SEC grinder and then get back to us about consistency.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:13 pm to
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So it will come down to whether LSU's resume out-weighs OSU's consistency


quote:

consistency


is often completely dependent on

quote:

resume


Also, a host of other factors that arent quantifiable by any humans outside of idiot savants and top-class MIT graduates. Last I check there arent any of those on the Committee. Just a bunch of dudes(and dames ) sitting around watching football and picking their favorite teams.

#letthecomputersdeicide

InB4- mUh cuRRenT BCS hAS OSU #1

Im referring to the computers that dont have HUMAN polls as 3/4 of their formula. Those HUMANS dont even watch all the games, unlike the Committee.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101591 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Run OSU through the SEC grinder and then get back to us about consistency.


It seems like it could also be a factor of simply playing a bunch of teams with consistent playing styles, which is not necessarily saying anything about the quality of those opponents good or bad.
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