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The Canada misfire is why this was doomed from the outset
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:35 am
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:35 am
It was only going to take one misstep for this whole stupid arrangement to completely unravel and if the behind the scenes rumors are true, well then O managed to frick up his very first hire.
You really roll the dice every time you make one of these coordinator hires, they can look great on paper but sometimes you don't see its actually a bad fit until its too late. You can have all the money in the world to throw at coordinators but it does not guarantee success. For this to work O was going to have to bat 1,000 in the hiring department and that's just not feasible.
You really roll the dice every time you make one of these coordinator hires, they can look great on paper but sometimes you don't see its actually a bad fit until its too late. You can have all the money in the world to throw at coordinators but it does not guarantee success. For this to work O was going to have to bat 1,000 in the hiring department and that's just not feasible.
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:36 am to BilJ
What's the behind scenes rumors? Ive been tuning out intentionally lately.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:37 am to BilJ
And remember Canada was at best option #2 behind baby Lane.........which seems crazy.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:38 am to The Mick
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What's the behind scenes rumors? Ive been tuning out intentionally lately.
Rift between O and Canada, going to a "simplified" offense wasn't Canada's idea, and a few times in Saturday's PC O mentioned needing to call better plays and referencing "plays we called last year". It isn't clicking with them two, and apparently this is a trend with Canada.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:38 am to BilJ
You really think this is Canada's offense?
Come on, O has his grubby gumbo fingers all over this shite.
Come on, O has his grubby gumbo fingers all over this shite.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:39 am to BilJ
He was a Broyle's award finalist
The hire was solid. The fit.. not so much. Doesn't help that O is interfering with the offense either since his IQ is that of a potato
The hire was solid. The fit.. not so much. Doesn't help that O is interfering with the offense either since his IQ is that of a potato
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:39 am to The Mick
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What's the behind scenes rumors? Ive been tuning out intentionally lately.
Quite a bit of sparring has taken place between Orgeron and Cananda.
And given how widely it's been reported, it's really no longer a rumor. They have some serious disagreements.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:40 am to sicboy
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It isn't clicking with them two, and apparently this is a trend with Canada.
He likes to do his own shite. Why should a crazy cajun try to meddle with it when Canada has had immense success elsewhere?
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:40 am to The Mick
some examples
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O is incomptent but Canada is the problem. There is a reason Canada never stays in one place long. Essentially JA was conned by O and Canada conned O.
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he rift is bad. I won’t go onto detail but, Canada will be gone if O is still around. He may leave on his own accord. Canada doesn’t like Baton Rouge. Apparently, the player really hate him also.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:40 am to BilJ
In a weird way I think O is sabatoging Canada.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:41 am to jonboy
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In a weird way I think O is sabatoging Canada.
Using him as a scapegoat to buy himself more time.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 10:47 am
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:41 am to BilJ
Canada was at Pitt for one year...and his offense did well enough that he was named one of five finalists for the Broyles Award, given annually to the top assistant coach in college football. Aranda was a stud last year...now the defense can't stop Troy.
It's just strange.
Is this the same offense that Canada ran at Pitt? I haven't watched much of their games from last year...just the Clemson game.
It's just strange.
Is this the same offense that Canada ran at Pitt? I haven't watched much of their games from last year...just the Clemson game.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:45 am to Chicken
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is this the same offense that Canada ran at Pitt?
nope
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:45 am to jonboy
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In a weird way I think O is sabatoging Canada.
Do not agree I think Canada wants Myles to be the QB and O is not allowing the change. You can see the play calls are different when DE is in and Myles is in.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:45 am to BilJ
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Doesn't help that O is interfering with the offense
You call that an offense??
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:45 am to Chicken
His offense at Pitt was good enough to beat Clemson, who generally have a decent defense, and put up 70 on Syracuse, but I think a lot of us were skeptical that this shifty misdirection nonsense was going to do anything in the SEC. Say what you will about SEC offenses, defense is always a stalwart. Maybe we just saw the point production last year and didn't really take a long hard look at what he actually ran and if that would work with this team.
Aranda was super complimentary of him during Canada's introductory PC, talking about how facing one of his offenses prepares you for everything, and that might be true, but I haven't really seen anything to indicate that we are making adjustments to fit what we have.
Aranda was super complimentary of him during Canada's introductory PC, talking about how facing one of his offenses prepares you for everything, and that might be true, but I haven't really seen anything to indicate that we are making adjustments to fit what we have.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:49 am to Chicken
The only explanation is O. Once he gets his hands on a program it goes south in a hurry.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:52 am to OKtiger
Look you hate O, that's fine, I don't like the hire. But it is kind of silly on your part to call o dumber than a potato. The guy just orchestrated a multi million dollar deal for himself. He isn't a dumbass no more than miles was. Also, Canada has had spotty success in the past and not much so far at Lsu.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:54 am to Chicken
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Is this the same offense that Canada ran at Pitt? I haven't watched much of their games from last year...just the Clemson game.
Nope, Canada is more ball control, run base with short passing game. O likes the deep ball.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:54 am to sicboy
My thing is both Canada and Aranda have been successful at every stop. Canada's offense handled Clemson last year, but I'd be willing to bet that wouldn't be the case if we played them this year. Canada didn't just show up here and forget how to coach offense. Either our players aren't as good as we thought or he's been handcuffed. I thought the offense looked pretty good against BYU, except the penalties. We are weak on both lines and it is hard to do anything when you are getting beat at the line of scrimmage.
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