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re: The bottom line in why I am angry
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:52 am to TIGRLEE
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:52 am to TIGRLEE
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so when the head coach and assit coach, teamates, announcers and other peole involved with the program have nothing but praise for a guy's character, who has been around for 5 fricking years... we shouldnt believe them?
GTFO.
It's not about JL. The same types of things were said about all the players involved and people choose to ignore that when 1 mistake is made.
The point is its stupid for anyone to tear down 85 18-22 year olds who make mistakes. And no they shouldn't be held to some higher standard because they play a game on saturdays that they are good at.
They made mistakes, are getting disciplined, now move on.
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Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:52 am to cdupuy
Im angry at people like you who jump to conclusions without hard facts.
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:54 am to Tigercat
Once again, no agenda. We can use many other people. As a matter of fact, how about we say David Toms, LG Chenault, or Pete Maravich. I'm sure there are some other graduates that fit the bill.
Doesn't matter who. No agenda.
Doesn't matter who. No agenda.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:54 am to MJM
quote:oh that's just good old fashion male behavior. God forbid he puts one joint to his mouth and he is now hurting him and the team in the biggest way possible...
what about if he gets drunk and is banging hot lsu tail all over campus?
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:57 am to EarthwormJim
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It's not about JL. The same types of things were said about all the players involved and people choose to ignore that when 1 mistake is made.
The point is its stupid for anyone to tear down 85 18-22 year olds who make mistakes. And no they shouldn't be held to some higher standard because they play a game on saturdays that they are good at.
They made mistakes, are getting disciplined, now move on.
let me ask you this question.
If you are willing and knowingly doing something reapeatedly that you know for a fact that if you get caught you are going to be in some shite... why should ANYBODY feel sorry for you? WHy does it bother you and others so much that people call them out on it and call a spade a spade?
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 11:58 am
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:57 am to Melvin
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what about if he gets drunk and is banging hot lsu tail all over campus?
oh that's just good old fashion male behavior. God forbid he puts one joint to his mouth and he is now hurting him and the team in the biggest way possible...
One of these is against the agreement they have with LSU as scholarship athletes.....do you know which one?
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:57 am to Choctaw
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what about those on academic scholarships
Now Choctaw, you know this is completely different. Your everyday student on academic scholarship does not represent the University in the national media everyday. For this to result in suspension, this was not their first offense. I'm all for giving everyone a second chance, but a third is pushing it. What they did wasn't huge, but it WAS illegal and warrants discipline. 1 game is fair, even 2 could be understood, but I'm not on the kick them off the team side yet. Now that might change if they fail another one.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't understand why in the hell someone would risk what these guys did for themselves and their teammates to get high during this season when they knew what the repercussions would be.
The part that I don't understand is why the teammates come out and say that they forgive them and support them. BS! To have what could be a special season sabotaged by the selfish acts of a few, would piss me off as a player. Someone needs to be a leader and say enough is enough. Obviously, no one learned from the JJ incident. It is time that the other players start making the trouble makers accountable.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:59 am to Krypto
I'm wondering how many of you people throwing the suspended players under the bus would still be doing so if this "rumor" of failed drug tests had not been leaked.
Say all you know is "disciplinary" issue is the reason they are suspended...you still willing to crucify these players then??
I doubt it.
Say all you know is "disciplinary" issue is the reason they are suspended...you still willing to crucify these players then??
I doubt it.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:59 am to CptBengal
quote:I don't think any of those players are 21 so going out and getting drunk would be illegal too
One of these is against the agreement they have with LSU as scholarship athletes.....do you know which one?
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:00 pm to Krypto
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Now Choctaw, you know this is completely different. Your everyday student on academic scholarship does not represent the University in the national media everyday.
Actually there is a code of conduct that academic scholarships have, violate it and they lose their scholarship. Just like athletes....sorry to burst your indignation bubble.
The individual signs the agreement agreeing to abide by the rules set forth, and in exchange they are given a scholarship. You violate, you lose.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:00 pm to cdupuy
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Once again, no agenda. We can use many other people. As a matter of fact, how about we say David Toms, LG Chenault, or Pete Maravich.
This has to be a troll.....right? Do you understand what they are accusing you of?
The proper response would have been the same could be said of Collis Temple, AP Tureaud, and Bradie James
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:00 pm to Krypto
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Your everyday student on academic scholarship does not represent the University in the national media everyday.
i don't give a shite about the national media
quote:
For this to result in suspension, this was not their first offense.
1. not necessarily
2. i don't think suspensions have been confirmed yet
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What they did wasn't huge, but it WAS illegal and warrants discipline
yes...but the OP wants them kicked off the team. 1 game is enough....some coaches wouldn't even do that.
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:00 pm to Melvin
cdupuy - You are comparing apples to oranges and here's the problem as I see it. The Army is a values based organization and a college football team is a results-based organization.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:01 pm to cdupuy
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This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:01 pm to cdupuy
football is exactly like religion.
my religion is better than your religion.
my god is better than your god.
the rant offers an outlet for all the real and false gods to argue.
for example: you.....whoopie shite.
my religion is better than your religion.
my god is better than your god.
the rant offers an outlet for all the real and false gods to argue.
for example: you.....whoopie shite.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:02 pm to cdupuy
I bleed purple and gold kick those frickers off the team!!
-True fan of the Tigahs!! yehaww
-True fan of the Tigahs!! yehaww
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:02 pm to Terry the Tiger
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The part that I don't understand is why the teammates come out and say that they forgive them and support them. BS! To have what could be a special season sabotaged by the selfish acts of a few, would piss me off as a player.
they're not emotional idiots that have no idea what goes on in the locker room
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Someone needs to be a leader and say enough is enough. Obviously, no one learned from the JJ incident. It is time that the other players start making the trouble makers accountable.
like i said....you have no idea whats going on
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:03 pm to cdupuy
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1) I was on a scholarship and would have lost it for weed due to it being an ROTC scholarship if I were to have failed a drug test.
If these kids violated rules that are part of their scholarship conditions than they should receive penalty.
and they have. by your admission the ROTC is not the same as an athletic scholarship...and the rules are being followed as laid down by the university. who are you to suggest newer, stiffer punishments?
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You do not have to be in the military to be a true fan like one of you replied. I was simply drawing a parallel. The fact is that I had to make some very hard decisions that greatly affected the lives of some tremendous kids and their families when they made bad decisions.
Fact is, by allegedly being in a position where you have made a few decisions - which as you pompously point out affect many lives - still does not give you the moral high horse to advocate that players be dismissed from a public institution.
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The last comment I made about JL was that I want my kid to grow up with determination, pride, and character. JL is not the only one in the team like that, but he stands out.
Why not any other players on the team who stand out? How about Brandon Taylor?? or even James Stampley?? But no, only Jarrett Lee stands out!! Why??
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:03 pm to blackjackjackson
Jarret Lee kicked a grandma and stole her purse. I SEENT IT
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