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re: The big Elephant in the room

Posted on 1/17/12 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 6:48 pm to
YOu think the Giants would have wanted to re-play New England after the super bowl victory?

Different scenario but not really...in terms of accomplishment and motivation thereafter
Posted by SwampdogDC
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 6:49 pm to
We did play the best, we beat them on Nov 5, if we keep playing same good team odds say that will eventually happen...it just happened the second time around.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 6:53 pm to
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Apparently you haven't played sports before or you lack the ability to put yourself in another person's point of view.


What?? Have you? Because I can't think of anybody who would not want to win a national championship, possibly go down as one of the greatest teams ever, and own a rival, who was the second best team to compete against that year.

We got out coached. Big time, that's it. And JJ shite the bed big time.
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 6:53 pm
Posted by German Shepard
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 6:56 pm to
Wow, I agree with all of this.
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 6:57 pm to
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Apparently you haven't played sports before



Sure have, and had the same outlook as I do about real life. I want to play/work against the best to get an accurate measure of myself. If I beat/outwork the best, I'm doing it right.


quote:

you lack the ability to put yourself in another person's point of view.



Former coach, undefeated season...the list goes on and on. If the boys from the bayou couldn't get up for this one...they lack intestinal fortitude, and LSU has bigger problems than QB management.
Posted by TigerJeff
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 6:59 pm to
That's all true. Alabama had a significant psychological advantage. LSU was "rewarded" for winning the SEC West by having to play an extra game. Alabama was rewarded for finishing 3rd in the SEC by getting a pass to the NCG and in essence playing with house money. All that said, LSU's offensive gameplan was ill-conceived and naive. Even w/ a better gameplan, Jefferson still may have performed poorly (dropped snaps, fallen down, etc.) but we'll never know. Alabama did not deserve to be in the game, but, other than LSU, frankly, who did?
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:00 pm to
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Apparently you haven't played sports before or you lack the ability to put yourself in another person's point of view.



The same could be said for you. I would think that anyone who has played competitive sports knows what it's like to be that close to a goal, and realize that you have to do whatever it takes to get it done. It's not hard. Anyone who's played a tennis match knows how to do this, for God's sake. Just about any competitive scenario I can think of, someone who is that close to winning doesn't need external motivation to beat a team they've already beat to win.

This is not why they lost.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:00 pm to
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What?? Have you? Because I can't think of anybody who would not want to win a national championship, possibly go down as one of the greatest teams ever, and own a rival, who was the second best team to compete against that year. We got out coached. Big time, that's it. And JJ shite the bed big time.


College football is different than most sports.

Each game is massively important relative to a Championship

Beating Alabama didn't serve as a punishment to Alabama.

That's a huge blow to LSU from the word go.

If you can see that reality, then no argument will be reasonable in your way of thinking.

It's stupid to finish second in your division and still play for a National Championship without a playoff format. People just voted what they thought would happen.

I have always been against the rematch because it never sucked for Alabama to lose...but some how it sucked bad for all the other teams in the country who still won their conferences.

It makes no sense and that's why the game should have been played.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:01 pm to
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I have always been against the rematch because it never sucked for Alabama to lose...but some how it sucked bad for all the other teams in the country who still won their conferences.


I suspect you are against a playoff or a plus one then.
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:02 pm to
Just say you're upset and the whole thing isn't fair. It seems like that is what you took away from your time playing sports.
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 7:03 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:03 pm to
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The same could be said for you. I would think that anyone who has played competitive sports knows what it's like to be that close to a goal, and realize that you have to do whatever it takes to get it done. It's not hard. Anyone who's played a tennis match knows how to do this, for God's sake. Just about any competitive scenario I can think of, someone who is that close to winning doesn't need external motivation to beat a team they've already beat to win. This is not why they lost.


IF LSU loses to UGA, you guys get left out

Ok...that's the reality...LSU beat you and then essentially helped into the game that only fueled your motivation from the loss while LSU is going "Wait, no, we eliminated them on the 5t?"
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:03 pm to
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I suspect you are against a playoff or a plus one then.
We didn't have a playoff in 2011...
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:03 pm to
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YOu think the Giants would have wanted to re-play New England after the super bowl victory?


Don't like comparing NFL and college. We were all told and sold a bill of goods that the winner on Nov 5. takes it all. The players left it all on the field that night.

Leading up to the game, I kept feeling how much more I would have been pumped if we were playing OSU and was hoping the players didn't feel the same. They were.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:05 pm to
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It was tangible football issues. Alabama beat us. People don't want to admit what is staring them right in the face. Once Alabama was able to stop the run, it became CLEARLY, BY A LARGE MARGIN, the better team.



Without the benefit of having already played LSU $abun never realizes he has to change his teams Identity on Offense. As for bamas D......Again I doubt he would have done much to stop the option without Nov 5
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:05 pm to
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I suspect you are against a playoff or a plus one then.


somewhat different because the teams would have to win a so-called elimination game to get there, i.e. winner moves on, loser goes home...Bama didn't really have to do that this year.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:06 pm to
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Just say you're upset and the whole thing isn't fair. It seems like that is what you took away from your time playing sports.



Look, you can be a smart jerk all you want.

If you polled the nation (prior to the game), 80% would tell you that the rematch was unfair (and unwanted) for LSU on many level to play Alabama.

Sorry you can't see it...


The BSC format should avoid rematches because we have no playoff

the loser always wants another shot

The winner always says, "see you next year"
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:07 pm to
OP is well said and probably totally true. The rematch bowl had Advantage Bama written all over it.
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 7:09 pm
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:08 pm to
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The BSC format



Is total horseshite.

And we benefited from it in 2007 and it was BS then too.

Lsu and bama fans as well as all other fanbases need to realize that we deserve a true tournament style playoffs.

F the plus 1
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20018 posts
Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:08 pm to
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That's all true. Alabama had a significant psychological advantage. LSU was "rewarded" for winning the SEC West by having to play an extra game. Alabama was rewarded for finishing 3rd in the SEC by getting a pass to the NCG and in essence playing with house money. All that said, LSU's offensive gameplan was ill-conceived and naive. Even w/ a better gameplan, Jefferson still may have performed poorly (dropped snaps, fallen down, etc.) but we'll never know. Alabama did not deserve to be in the game, but, other than LSU, frankly, who did?


solid post
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 7:09 pm to
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If you polled the nation (prior to the game), 80% would tell you that the rematch was unfair (and unwanted) for LSU on many level to play Alabama.



Ancedotal poll #'s are fun.


quote:

The BSC format should avoid rematches because we have no playoff



The BCS is designed to get #1 and #2 in the title game. It did that. Just like it got LSU in the title game in '07 while having 2 losses.





Look, man. I get it. It suuuuuuckks to lose. But, to say that the players "didn't get up" for the game is nuts.
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