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That was a bad throw by the catcher and a ticky-tack call

Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:25 pm
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3367 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:25 pm
The throw should have been to the left side (inside part) of the bag.

Runner's feet were going down the line....

I understand the rule. His foot was a couple inches inside the line ... ok. He's out BUT -

The catcher's throw messed that play up.

Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:29 pm to
Such a bullshite rule change. You’re literally taught to get in the line of the throw. They’re taking out all of the small things that matter and I hate it
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
96201 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:32 pm to
That ball should have been throw inside the base line
It was thrown outside the base line
No way the 1B man could have caught that
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3367 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:34 pm to
Correck. We teach "INSIDE" all the way down to 10U.
Posted by ReverendJeffro
Mandeville,LA
Member since Dec 2013
949 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:36 pm to
I thought if the base runner is running within the baseline that if the ball hits the base runner it is called and error on the throw. What am I missing?
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8998 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:41 pm to
It was a BS letter of the law call. I do not like the rule that if a part of your foot is past the chalk its interference. As long as your foot is touching then it shouldn't be interference.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9372 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

ticky-tack call


quote:

ok. He's out


Rant logic. Perfectly called out is ticky tack.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39980 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:47 pm to
It should never be interference if you're on the dirt. IMO.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11812 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

The throw should have been to the left side (inside part) of the bag.

Runner's feet were going down the line....

I understand the rule. His foot was a couple inches inside the line ... ok. He's out BUT -

The catcher's throw messed that play up.


there is a reason there is a second white line down the 1st base line just to the right of the base line.

this is the line the base runner is to take. being in the baseline is interference....

Ump made the correct call.....

Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3015 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:03 pm to
That second white line is 3 feet outside of the square white thing you have to step on
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166322 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:04 pm to
Why is the bag inside the line if runner can’t be inside the line?
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11812 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:05 pm to
Baseball Rules:

quote:

Beginning halfway between home and first base, and ending at first base, there is a second chalk line to the right of the foul line. This second line and the part of the foul line it runs parallel to, form the running lane that defines the path in which a batter-runner must run as they are advancing to first base.


EDIT: See Running Lane

LINK

This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 1:06 pm
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27856 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

The batter-runner is permitted to exit the three-foot lane by means of a step, stride, reach or slide in the immediate vicinity of first base for the sole purpose of touching first base.
You can’t touch the bag from the running lane and are allowed to leave it if not intentionally getting in the way of the throw.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37110 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Correck. We teach "INSIDE" all the way down to 10U.


99 percent of the time that works. It gives the runner a slight advantage. But if the runner gets hit… this is the correct call
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66007 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by Kajuntiger121110
Member since Aug 2020
625 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:45 pm to
I mean he's directly even with the bag! What a bs call!
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42633 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

What am I missing

I haven't checked for changes, but the rule used to be that the runner had to stay in FOUL TERRITORY (lane outlined by chalk line) in FOUL territory for the final 2/3 the distance to 1st base on any play was from 'behind the runner' on the way to 1st base. I found this out early in my career when I tried to run inside the line on a bunt down the first base line - (I 'thought' I had outsmarted the defense by my clever bunt = make it difficult for the catcher to make the throw) - Everybody made fun of me because I was 'so dumb' - but I never made that mistake again.

The runner was definitely "out" by that rule in this instance - only by a few feet tho - all he had to do was keep that last foot even 'on the baseline' to have been safe. But he was clearly inside fair territory - so 'out by the rule'
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42633 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

second white line is 3 feet outside of the square white thing you have to step on

no - that is the boundary line - you have to be BETWEEN that line and the first base line right up until you get to the bag. You can only get out of that line as your last step before touching the bag.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42633 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

As long as your foot is touching

it is the step BEFORE the 'touching' that has to be outside fair territory. The last 'step' in actually touching the bag is by definition in 'fair territory' -

the rule only applies to events "before" the touch.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42633 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

We teach "INSIDE" all the way down to 10U.

then you are part of the problem

that is exactly CONTRADICTORY to the 'correct' thing to do.

I had that same thought when I was 18 also - but I learned quickly on the first time I tried to be 'smart' on the way to 1st following a bunt. Apparently I was the only one who did NOT know that - but that was back in the 50s.

People were a lot smarter then.
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