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re: Talked to a Bama fan about coach O
Posted on 10/30/16 at 3:07 am to LSU BASEBALL13
Posted on 10/30/16 at 3:07 am to LSU BASEBALL13
I keep saying it every time it's brought up
1. It's the players, coach O hasn't done anything that any other coach that wasn't a stubborn jackass would do in a similar situation.
2. We have still played nobody.
Aranda's defense has been beastmode all year, Fournette is a freak of nature, Guice isn't far behind, and Etling is average enough with ridiculous talent to throw to.
Other teams' fan do hope we hire him because they see what's going on without all the emotion attached to their reasoning.
Being emotional and cheap is what kept Miles here after last year's debacle and it seems like history might repeat itself this year if some of these wackos have anything to say about it.
1. It's the players, coach O hasn't done anything that any other coach that wasn't a stubborn jackass would do in a similar situation.
2. We have still played nobody.
Aranda's defense has been beastmode all year, Fournette is a freak of nature, Guice isn't far behind, and Etling is average enough with ridiculous talent to throw to.
Other teams' fan do hope we hire him because they see what's going on without all the emotion attached to their reasoning.
Being emotional and cheap is what kept Miles here after last year's debacle and it seems like history might repeat itself this year if some of these wackos have anything to say about it.
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 3:29 am to djkevlar
Alabama fans are being their normal, entitled selves. The thing they are worried about is the O factor. I'm not.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:27 am to MrWalkingMan
quote:That's kind of where I'm at. I can't point to anything CEO has done fundamentally wrong. That has two caveats:
If he wins out, the job is his. And I hope he wins out.
He's not the same coach he was at ole miss. The guy has changed. Personally, I'd wait too the end of the season to make this call
1. We don't see everything, but we've been informed of some (e.g. changes in practice routine)
2. It is much easier to see what the other guy is doing and fix/improve than to self-evaluate or create.
So yeah, wait and see. Lets get more data on "this version" of CEO.
One thing that annoys me, mainly talking to other LSU fans IRL, is that most/many/all want that slam dunk hire. IF that slam dunk isn't there, CEO is the best option because when the slam dunk becomes available you can make that move easier. Not saying he's the best coach, not saying he's the 10yr coach. Just saying if the right guy isn't there (Herman/Jimbo/etc) don't get a next tier (Fedora/Morris/etc) and be stuck with him. At least you keep the recruiting going for the most part.
That's not an ideal strategy, but a realistic one depending on who's out there and how the negotiations go. The 'market' may not be ideal if USC and UTx are looking for coaches too. You don't have to make that '10yr hire' this year. But you have to be in a contract/political position to do it when the opportunity does exist.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:36 am to AirborneJonnyA
But but the Miles chants at the A&M game last year.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:45 am to Folsom
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:47 am to MrWalkingMan
This is not the same team under Miles, it is much better and they are playing with fire, especially that Defense!!
However, the offense is light years better and keeping the defense fresher.
Coach O and his delegation, cutting back on practice time, telling it like it is in press conferences, and letting the coaches coach is paying dividends, and he and Ensminger's offensive strategy is paying huge dividends.
What is nice to know is that he WILL PLAY TO WIN against Bama
However, the offense is light years better and keeping the defense fresher.
Coach O and his delegation, cutting back on practice time, telling it like it is in press conferences, and letting the coaches coach is paying dividends, and he and Ensminger's offensive strategy is paying huge dividends.
What is nice to know is that he WILL PLAY TO WIN against Bama
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:47 am to philly444
Ole PRICK NICK SABAN BE LIKE WE CHEATED SOMEHOW!!! Cause he can't take a DEFEAT!!!!
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:38 am to LSU BASEBALL13
Hmm. So a really good recruiter in a talent rich state can get great talent to play with excitement and dominate. I'll take it.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:06 am to GeauxBayouBengals
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Duh, every team in the SEC is praying LSU hires Coach O. That should tell you all you need to know.
link?
the ones getting their respective asses handed to them aren't , I guarantee you that.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:08 am to boxcar willie
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the ones getting their respective asses handed to them aren't , I guarantee you that.
This is more about down the road than it is about right now.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:10 am to Datbayoubengal
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We have still played nobody.
I hate when I hear this but it doesn't mean it's incorrect. We've done everything we should have done against the opponents we have played. Ole Miss is a mess but we did well against one of the best qb's in the country.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:15 am to c on z
504A U should ask your daddy to take to a football game! TYPICAL GUMP! Best case in Bama is to marry your 1st.cousin rather than your sister! 
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:28 am to AirborneJonnyA
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The same players weren't motivated
Have you even watched the first half of our last two games or noted we are 3-0 while playing three of the worst run defense teams in all of college football or that we rank #105 in passing offense?
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Plus the fans aren't making this decision.
Tell me the number of really good hires made my Alleva since 2008. How's the basketball program doing? Right now, I have more faith in the fans than Joe.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:33 am to LSU BASEBALL13
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Coach O has already coaches at ole miss and USC and has been decent if that.
He's 9-2 in his last 11 games. That's after filling in for teams that were so bad they fired coaches mid-season. He can win with talent -PERIOD. He took over an awful OM team. They fired him a year too early, just like Cutcliff.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:37 am to LSU BASEBALL13
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Talked to a Bama fan
Stopped reading
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:53 am to GeauxBayouBengals
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Duh, every team in the SEC is praying LSU hires Coach O. That should tell you all you need to know.
If they know anything about college football they don't.
This is some of the stuff I posted in threads on the "coaching changes" board (where this thread should be). I have RA'd.
Anyway, the opposing teams see what the LSU fans and admin are seeing.
First: They are seeing an offense that is coordinated by a guy who was a tight-ends coach four games ago. A guy who has worked at high schools for 3 of his last 5 jobs. A guy who according to a couple posts I have seen doesn't even want to be the OC.
But yet, this wannabe TE's coach has seen his offense set 3 ALL-TIME LSU offensive records in only 3 games. He has seen his offense outscore opponents 73-7 in the second half of games. 73 second half points in three games !!! His offense has scored 125 points in the three games he has been OC.
LSU has been playing football for 123 years and this guy has set 3 all-time LSU records in three games. That's some crazy shite right there. Not to even mention that guys like Gary Crowton and Jimbo Fisher have been OC's at LSU recently.
All that from a TE's coach. Every team in the SEC has to be hoping that when/or if O is retained, that as bad as it may be for them, he keeps the record-setting Ensminger as OC. They have to be worrying what the hell the LSU offense would be like if CEO hires a proven offensive guru as OC.
Second: I just read Jimmy Details recruiting chat on NOLA.com and to me it looks like Coach O will lock down the boarders of La like it has never been done before. A lot of Jimmy's responses to questions were that this player will be a highly probable flip or will not come to LSU if Coach O is not retained. This is after one month on the job.
Other SEC teams are probably still distraught that Les Miles is gone. LSU finally has the opportunity to reach it's potential.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:18 am to Tiger Ree
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set 3 ALL-TIME LSU offensive records in only 3 games
Running the ball down the throats of run defenses which rank as some of the worst in college football while playing starters deep into the forth quarter. There isn't a position coach on Les' staff who probably couldn't have done the same.
You want to hire a dude who shite in his bed in his last head coach job, in ten years no other school even offered a DC job to, much less a head coach job...NO OTHER SCHOOL IN ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL.., and who was a position coach on a staff that just gut their head coach fired because he ran up the score on shite teams.
Let's not even wait to see what we do in our first real test in a month.
Stupid runs deep on the rant.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:18 am to Datbayoubengal
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1. It's the players, coach O hasn't done anything that any other coach that wasn't a stubborn jackass would do in a similar situation.
Coach O was the D-line and recruiting coordinator at USC. So even if it is JUST the players, he is the one who is responsible for those players being there. Coach O was the only coach Pete Carroll retained from the previous staff at USC. Pete kept him for his recruiting prowess. He was associate head coach, D-line and recruiting coordinator under PC.
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2. We have still played nobody.
LSU has played football since 1893 or 123 years. In O's only three games the LSU team has set 3 all-time offensive records. LSU must have played at least one other nobody in it's 123 history. Yet, here is Coach O - three games, 3 all-time LSU records.
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Other teams' fan do hope we hire him because they see what's going on without all the emotion attached to their reasoning.
They do? What exactly is going on when all the emotional attachment is removed. Is it that LSU is kicking arse and looks like a great team for the first time in quite a while?
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Being emotional and cheap is what kept Miles here after last year's debacle and it seems like history might repeat itself this year if some of these wackos have anything to say about it.
The "wackos" are probably smart enough to realize even after only three games that CEO is NOTHING like Les Miles. If you can't see that then it is you that has has some kind of misguided emotional issue.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:19 am to AirborneJonnyA
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The same players weren't motivated and weren't put in any position to win at all 4 weeks ago. We have guys who actually think they are gonna make a difference, gonna touch a ball, and young guys who know they will get some playing time at some point. I'm sure it's fun to be a part of Plus the fans aren't making this decision. We can hope all we want but it's not our decision. Just like it wasn't that bama fans decision to hire Saban. We can be emotional all we want. It's not our decision.
Nope but we do have a say by not showing up to games or giving money to the program.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:34 am to LSU Groupee
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Running the ball down the throats of run defenses which rank as some of the worst in college football while playing starters deep into the forth quarter. There isn't a position coach on Les' staff who probably couldn't have done the same.
Well, a lot of people have had a lot of chances to set LSU school records. Why didn't they? Coach O's team sets three all-time records and it bothers you so much you say that you think anybody could have done it. Why the hell didn't they?
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You want to hire a dude who shite in his bed in his last head coach job
As far as I am concerned he is 3-0 and kicking arse in his last head coaching job. Prior to that he was 6-2 as a head coach at USC.
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in ten years no other school even offered a DC job to, much less a head coach job...NO OTHER SCHOOL IN ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL.
If not for a personal hangup by Pat Haden he would have been hired as a head coach by USC. Pat was a very unpopular man with players and alumni when he didn't hire CEO. In hindsight it turns out everybody opposed to Haden was correct.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=66521306&s=2&p=66514171#66521306
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and who was a position coach on a staff that just gut their head coach fired because he ran up the score on shite teams.
Not sure what this is referencing?
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 10:42 am
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