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re: Taking top 5 talent and somehow keeping them outside of the top 20.

Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216002 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:00 pm to
I also believe we don't have top five talent. It may look that when they get here but they somehow don't reach that high of level. I will say this now. Lsu will be no more than a pretender again next year.
Posted by EarlyDfor6
North La
Member since Nov 2015
138 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:03 pm to
Just going off of Harris in November. 3-4 losses appears to be a lock. Hate to admit it. But the eyeballs see what they see and our ears are tired of excuses.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5463 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:06 pm to
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Recruit rankings from the last 3 years. As you can see the gap between lsu and bama is bigger than the gap between lsu and Ole miss. Bama's recruiting budget is,literally,8 times what lsu's is.


And yet teams lower on the list than LSU, like Auburn and Ole Miss, have beaten Alabama on multiple occassions over the last six years.
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3220 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:09 pm to
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Yeah, Arky beat us, aTm beat Arky, and we beat aTm. Your argument makes no sense. I call this the "circle jerk fallacy."


What about this team leads you to believe that they will win. Are we going to out talent them like we typically win.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:10 pm to
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And yet teams lower on the list than LSU, like Auburn and Ole Miss, have beaten Alabama on multiple occassions over the last six years.


So have we.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:13 pm to
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Fans always believe Miles will have decent qb production the next year and treated to the same shite show offense year after year after year 





We had decent qb play in 06,07,09,2011n&2013. But don't let facts get in the way of shitting on the program you cheer for.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83081 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:20 pm to
so I dont get it, do we have talent or not?

if yes, then they're either really young or really overrated.

if no, then miles is a poor talent evaluator.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42144 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:22 pm to
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if no, then miles is a poor talent evaluator.


If you want to play that game than every team not Clemson, Bama, Oklahoma and Michigan state aren't good talent evaluators either.

Interesting how much move meant of goal posts that happens in order to try and trash the program though. Why do you like doing that?
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45739 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:24 pm to
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We had decent qb play in 06,07,09,2011n&2013. But don't let facts get in the way of shitting on the program you cheer for.


So once the past four years
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:25 pm to
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Interesting how much move meant of goal posts that happens in order to try and trash the program though. Why do you like doing that?






It's just amazing how much these people hate the coach with the best win % in lsu history. They really believe a shite coach can achieve the 7th best win % in sec history and the #1 ooc win % in sec history. I believe it may be time for a change at head coach but I don't have to shite our our program's accomplishments in the process. I can't stand our fan base. I now realize why so many fan bases hate us. We treat our own coaches and players like shite let alone opposing fans.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216002 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:25 pm to
I think miles is a poor developer of talent. And yes some players coming in are overrated in high school. This so called star system they put on high schoolers is a total joke. It all depends on how well they are coached once they are here.
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9752 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:28 pm to
I've got two little girls to to raise now, I think I may be over LSU football. From 2001-2015, it was a fun ride, but we are now well on the way to losing seasons and no bowl at all.

I might start watching UL.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83081 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:29 pm to
what do you mean?

Miles gets credit for being a great recruiter but even some of your very own pumpers are saying that this team has a void of talent, which is why we cant compete with bama. so if that's the case, is he an overrated recruiter of bad collegiate talent, or a poor developer of good collegiate talent?

if you know me, you know that I follow recruiting pretty intently, so I have a good idea of where our recruiting has been as of late.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:29 pm to
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From 2001-2015, it was a fun ride, but we are now well on the way to losing seasons and no bowl at all.


Holy shite. We haven't had anything close to a losing season.
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10932 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:29 pm to
No one is shitting on the PROGRAM.

We're tired of the blind defense of complete coaching incompetence that is stopping our team from reaching its potential, regardless of where you rank the talent.

Have y'all watched the last two games vs. Arkansas? The Ole Miss game this year? If that product on the field placates you, then suit yourself. I think we can do way better.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294296 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:31 pm to
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I also believe we don't have top five talent. It may look that when they get here but they somehow don't reach that high of level. I will say this now. Lsu will be no more than a pretender again next year.


I think our recruiting is overrated. Maybe we've reached the Mack Brown level of recruiting.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71883 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:33 pm to
I see your point and it's a fair one, but it's been a long arse time since LSU beat Bama.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83081 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:33 pm to
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Interesting how much move meant of goal posts that happens in order to try and trash the program though. Why do you like doing that?


and for the millionth time, how am I trashing the program?
Posted by Wind Rivers Tiger
Wyoming
Member since Sep 2011
1033 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:52 pm to
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in order to try and trash the program


In virtually every one of your posts you attempt to equate criticism of Miles, or any expression of frustration by fans who think we can do better, as hatred for the program.

One does not equal the other. No matter how many times you regurgitate this false equivalency, ONE DOES NOT EQUAL THE OTHER. You must realize this ( or else you're an idiot) and your continued repetition of it is nothing less than dishonest.

I'm an alum and a fan, and I take a backseat to no one in my love for LSU. At the same time, I think that Les is, at best, a mediocre coach who underachies with the resources he has. I want him gone.

In conclusion, I'd just like to say, GFY.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
24857 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 5:03 pm to
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We dont have top 5 talent.


In the SEC West?
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