re: Swing passes and sideways offense ???

A few points...

The sideways pass DOES stretch the field. You can stretch a defense vertically AND horizontally. I have no problem, conceptually, with that kind of play call.

5-7 yards a pop is a successful play in most cases. Sometimes, that's what a play is designed to get. Not every play is designed to score a TD.

I think a big part of the decision to use this style of offense was that Mettenberger was getting lit up. This allowed him to get the ball out quickly and get into a rhythm.

The short passes did set up that beautiful pass to a wide open Shep which got called back for an unrelated penalty. So there's value to future playcalls as well.

I do think we overused that quick pass, but it wasn't enough to make me freak out. Actually, my biggest problem was during the TD pass, Landry was so open it hurt. While I loved Mett putting the ball in a real small window, I'd rather him make better decisions. This game was a glorified scrimmage -- we worked on things against a live defense.

been discussed do a search...there is nothing wrong with horizontal stretch plays....they work....but once defense aligns or matches up as far as squating on short stuff in man and possible bump and run you must counter and beat them intermediate to deep especially if they load the box as well to stop the run once you spread them out.



we did throw a go and a fade.

we had 46 runs compared to 26 pass ATTEMPTS. most of which were short. I did not see any swing passes unless i missed them. maybe you are confusing that with a tunnel screen, bubble screen etc.

i agree though we need more vertical work. Hopefully we see it this week.

What I didn't like is that so many short plays forced our offense to make every play a success, which is just too tough to do against a quality defense. We had drives stall out after 10 plays that only gained 40 yards or so. We need some intermediate gains. I like long drives, but this took it to extremes.

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So you do understand football? Go back and watch the game and see how many of those vertical passes on first down picked up 6 or 7 yards or are you one of those guys who think we need to score on every play. As for me, I'll take 2nd and 3.

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I think you'll agree those little swing passes are VERY DANGEROUS when you play against a real defense....pretty easy for a pick six there if anything at all goes wrong. That's what I don't like about it....the reward/risk just doesn't seem to be there. It's not like we are making big yardage on them.....and they are very risky.

Clearly LSU fans will only be happy with 95 yard post patttern TDs on every offensive down. Unless it's a 95 yard middle screen TD.

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were playing to keep everything in front of them.

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They were 5-10 yds off the LOS bout all night and Mett has the arm to make that pass almost like a hand off.

It's called taking what the D gives you and beating them bout the head with it.

The fail with all complaining BS bout the game plan is laughable. It was the 1st freaking game of the season. How did we know No. Tex corners were going to play so off the LOS or even sure they would play so much man to man?

It's not so much game plan as it is fooball 101...if they willing to give you 5-10 yds on a certain play...you take the dang 5-10 yds all night.

It keeps the OLB's and safeties honest sideline-to-sideline, which allows us to murder the frick out of people with Hilliard and Blue off tackle.

Regardless of what you think Mett should be or can be, our strength is running the football and those bubble screens and quick slants allow us to do that more effectively.

Certainly 500 yards of offense is very good, but it's ok to admit that our horizontal passing game was very frustrating, especially since we now seem to have a strong armed passing QB and very good receivers. Work on the vertical passing game against the cupcakes, because there will come a time or two this season where we need a balanced offensive attack. I understand our running game is very powerful, but we need to make sure we can move the ball against the elite defenses. So we should practice the downfield passing game against NT, and also against Idaho and Towson. I'm not saying we throw it downfield 50 times per game, just stretch the field with our athletes on the edge. To not do it, with the talent we have, is very frustrating.

First start at qb. QB is killer at deep passes. Want to first establish confidence. Trying to throw long against a team taking that away by playing deep is what is known in football terminology as STUPID!

Miles way!
1. confidence - check
2. qb still alive - check
3. 500+ yards of offense - check

Your way
1. confidence - shattered
2. Metts brains - scrambled
3. offensive clicking - nope forcing crap
4. Turnovers - and an interception or a fumble by mett on a sack

Rant your way: we need to get into a rhythm offensively. Too many punts. Why can't our receivers get open. Will Rivers survive against a better washington line when Mett couldn't against North Texas. Everyone say a prayer that Mett gets out of the hospital soon.

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we have a first year starter at QB and he needs work.

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Good point.

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I've been saying this to idiots that don't understand football and they just don't get it but this sideline passing shite is going to be a problem.

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This is where you become an idiot though. Mett was getting killed. So you think we should have gone ahead and practiced the vertical passing game when it was obvious we were having issues protecting him. That is fricking brilliant...get your only QB hurt to "practice" passing in a game youve already won.

The intelligent thing to do is to fix the blocking issues in practice genius.