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re: Stop talking bad about players opting out.

Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69083 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:04 pm to
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Sad truth is you wouldn't have the balls to say it to his face the same way you wouldn't say it to mine. That makes you the worst kind of pussy. I suppose it takes one to know one after all.

How big someone is doesn't really define whether or not someone is acting like a pussy. But you sound real tough saying you could beat someone up for voicing his opinion on a message board. But, just so we're straight, are you saying that a professional or college athlete can't act like or be a pussy, in the pejorative sense, in any situation just because they could beat up a normal guy? Have you ever described someone as a pussy, not to their face, before? (that's a rhetorical question)

I do think athletes have grown to be much softer than they used to be, but I don't entirely blame them because people are coddled so much more now in society, in general, than they used to be.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:05 pm to
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I'm going to opt-out of the rest of the year at my job because sales are down, my bonus may not be as big, and I need to prepare for another interview... said only selfish shortsighted quitters.




This
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Hopes a 20 year old breaks his leg and I'm the problem with society?!?! Since when does taking care of your family make you selfish? Stop comparing athletes to soldiers because that's a terrible analogy. For the sake of mankind I really hope you don't reproduce, the thought of having others as idiotic as you is unbearable...pussy.


It’s obvious you put pussy on a pedestal on the regular. People bitch about privilege but give privileged, selfish quitters a pass “because they can make millions” (which most likely wouldn’t change if he finished what he started btw) while the rest of society plays by a different set of rules. Most don’t get the opportunity to live like a king in college and then make millions. So damn hypocritical. Keep on loving him because he put on an LSU uniform for 2.5 out of 4 years... I’ll revere men with work ethic, loyalty, courage, fight, and morals over privileged premadona athletes any day.
Posted by BigTimer23
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2015
2016 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:14 pm to
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I'm going to opt-out of the rest of the year at my job because sales are down, my bonus may not be as big, and I need to prepare for another interview... said only selfish shortsighted quitters.

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This


Not even close to the same thing, but you’re the same guy who said Marshall had a “thug attitude”, so it’s not surprising coming from you
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
8952 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:15 pm to
Did he make a business decision, yes.
Did he quit on his team, yes.

I always like to see LSU guys do well in the league, but I they deserve the judgement if they quit.
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

How big someone is doesn't really define whether or not someone is acting like a pussy. But you sound real tough saying you could beat someone up for voicing his opinion on a message board. But, just so we're straight, are you saying that a professional or college athlete can't act like or be a pussy, in the pejorative sense, in any situation just because they could beat up a normal guy? Have you ever described someone as a pussy, not to their face, before? (that's a rhetorical question) I do think athletes have grown to be much softer than they used to be, but I don't entirely blame them because people are coddled so much more now in society, in general, than they used to be.


Well said. I’m actually more pissed off at the enablers and excuse makers than Marshall. Society has allowed softness to be rewarded and social media influencers become millionaires. What a backwards arse approach. We’ll see who excels when times really get tough. My guess is that it won’t be the coddled kids coming up now.
Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
3710 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:18 pm to
It is bullshite.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7780 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:21 pm to
Opting out right after a season and well before the next season I can handle...but opting out during a season is shitty
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6450 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:25 pm to
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You know damn well you will be claiming them when they get drafted this year. And for sure they will be part of NFLSU when they are tearing up the league over the next few years.


I don't "claim" quitters.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69083 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Well said. I’m actually more pissed off at the enablers and excuse makers than Marshall. Society has allowed softness to be rewarded and social media influencers become millionaires. What a backwards arse approach. We’ll see who excels when times really get tough. My guess is that it won’t be the coddled kids coming up now.

What pisses me off more is people who argue that no one on here knows what it's like to make a decision like this as if plenty of people don't face life-altering decisions multiple times throughout their lives. Guys like Marshall being football players (entertainers) doesn't put them in some special class of people where an average joe can't even comprehend how to make a life decision that affects more than just themselves. People take risks every single day. Some work out, some don't. People quit school, just like football players, for financial opportunities they don't think they can pass up at the time. For some, that decision works out great. For others, they may wish they had stayed in school and earned their degrees. For athletes, some probably wish they had stayed in school longer to boost their draft status for a larger guaranteed payment or to earn their degrees when their football careers don't pan out. Such is life.

But most of us take leaps of faith at some point or another. And, what some of the younger posters may not comprehend yet, is that decisions are not always based on money. Sure, that is certainly an important factor to weigh, but myself and plenty of my buddies have made decisions where the money was actually less or potentially less than the alternative. Sometimes decisions are made based on work/life balance. Sometimes decisions are based upon the risk that they won't make any money right off the bat but the potential for money is greater later, even if that potential doesn't ever materialize down the road.

But to say that we can't possibly understand or that everyone would do the exact same thing under the circumstances is just plain ignorant. Everyone doesn't have the same priorities and values as the next guy.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted by TheGeauxt18
Member since Aug 2018
331 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:21 pm to
First of all Melt was the first one to throw out "pussy". I never said I could beat the guy up I just said he probably wouldn't say it to TM's face or mine, which makes him a hypocrite. I think athletes act like pussies all the time, but I will never criticize one for looking after their family above all things else. No one would criticize you for doing the same, so why is it a double standard for athletes? Most of whom come from less than fortunate circumstances. I hate the fact that the NCAA has allowed this to become such a common theme for good players, but you can't blame athletes for taking advantage of a flawed system.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:24 pm to
Triggered?
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
21881 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:31 pm to
Hearing more opt outs coming. My source has been pretty reliable. Ingram, Cox and Curry are next.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39505 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:35 pm to
3 more are coming.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39505 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:35 pm to
Yeah, those 3.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:36 pm to
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probably wouldn't say it to TM's face or mine, which makes him a hypocrite.


Meet me at Sonic. Pussy.

I'm not sure what is so hard to understand about this. He quit, we have a right to express an opinion on an LSU message board. 99.9% chance he would make the same amount or greater if he stayed the entire season. shite, there is a small chance he may have been able to make more. It's my opinion and obviously many in this thread that he could have gone about it in a more honorable way and most likely made the same money or more. It's not like playing the last few games (huge rivalries and big-time competition by the way) would mean he's definitely going to get injured and lose MILLIONS. Be a stand up man and not leave everyone hanging THEN go make your money.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:37 pm to
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Hearing more opt outs coming. My source has been pretty reliable. Ingram, Cox and Curry are next.


Reason # 934 to not make this an acceptable practice. What a pitiful bunch. Makes it very difficult to pull for them when they demand blind support but bail so quickly.
Posted by LSU91MBA
Houston
Member since Aug 2008
1588 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:44 pm to
So, your 'solution' is to make accusations you cannot prove and suggest that LSU needs to "cheat more" to compete?

Totally ridiculous.

I don't know what the answer is --- but paying top players to stay and play 1 more season, is NOT the answer, in my opinion.

Yes, I'm "old school" but I'd sure like to see the "system" require a player that signs a scholarship to have to honor it --- with 4 years of commitment.... and keep the NFL away from them until after 4 years in a college program...… I'm realistic too, and know that won't happen --- but it would be best for the sport ---- the schools and coaches --- and in the long run, if that's the way the system is set up --- it will also be best for the players.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69083 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 4:32 pm to
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My source has been pretty reliable. Ingram, Cox and Curry are next.

So Ingram (a guy we stood by and let back on the team after a roller coaster of legal issues), Cox (a guy who transferred in here this year), and Curry our supposed team leader #18 who is a RS sophomore with no shot at getting drafted this year are "opting out"? They can all frick off if that's the case. If they are so mentally fragile that they can't emotionally handle losing, then I don't want players like that on the team. I'd rather have guys on the team who want to be here than a bunch of selfish entitled assholes.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 4:43 pm to
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I'm not sure you recognize the positives and negatives associated with acquiring future talent for the team YOU root for.


I'm not sure you recognize rooting for a team vs rooting for individuals. So what if an individual from LSU does well in the pros? I'll still root for LSU, regardless of them being a roster full of 4-5* or just some chumps.
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