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State of program before and after Les
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:28 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:28 am
Simple question, did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it? Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:28 am to yomamak
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Simple question, did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it?
Yes
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Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?
Yes
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:29 am to yomamak
quote:Yes
Simple question, did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it? Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:31 am to yomamak
LSU is really lucky. While the results were not what anyone wanted lately, the firing of coach generally comes after severe damage has been done. If this recruiting class stays even somewhat together, the program can rock along as if nothing happened.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:37 am to yomamak
There's plenty of talent on the roster or sure. He just didn't know what to do with it.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:26 am to yomamak
No rational fan would deny that Les was a fantastic recruiter, because he was.
Most fans had a problem with these players not living up to their potential under him. Hence, the most players in the NFL, and no bling to show for it.
Most fans had a problem with these players not living up to their potential under him. Hence, the most players in the NFL, and no bling to show for it.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:28 am to yomamak
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did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it?
No...we were 1 year removed from a national title when miles took over
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Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?
Same
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:35 am to yomamak
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Simple question, did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it?
Probably close to the same. Tons of talent, great facilities that are continuing to improve. Reputation is definitely in better shape.
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Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?
Absolutely. LSU is being talked about as one of the best jobs in America. That was not how we were talked about when Saban jumped ship.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:41 am to yomamak
Yes, yes, yes.
He sustained this program and took it up several notches in his 12 years. No doubt.
He sustained this program and took it up several notches in his 12 years. No doubt.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:49 am to SBC
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He sustained this program and took it up several notches in his 12 years. No doubt.
He took over a program that had won a national championship two years prior and went 6-2 in conference the year before.
He leaves a program that won a NC 9 years ago and played for another NC 5 years ago (and got humiliated).
But in the 4+ years after that, we've gone 15-11 against the SEC West, all with top 5 recruiting classes. Last 3+ years: 10-10.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:50 am to yomamak
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did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it? Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?
I'd say yes.
When Saban left, LSU was still nationally perceived as probably an above-average gig, but not a top tier one. Saban took a struggling program and resuscitated it, but he hadn't established the kind of respect that, say, Pete Carroll established for USC by the time he left LA.
Miles did a good job of keeping LSU at a high level of success, especially in '05 through '07, which I think is what made the nation really perceive LSU as a perennial power. It's hard to ignore a team that wins 2 nattys in 5 years.
Obviously there were a few "down" years in '08-'10 and then after 1/9/2012, but the 2011 season was special enough to maintain that perception even though the seasons immediately before and after weren't that great.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:52 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:51 am to yomamak
Absolutely not. The talent level is ok but overall the program is in disarray. Apathy with the team and fans.
Yes
Yes
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:40 pm to atltiger6487
Well said.... I like miles but facts are facts....
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:45 pm to dukke v
In 2005, no one in America (outside of LA) considered LSU a top 5 job in the country, even with its pretty solid history and prestige.
People now regard it as a premier program, with some commentators and pundits now calling it the best job.
The program is undeniably better because of Les's tenure, all political turmoil aside.
People now regard it as a premier program, with some commentators and pundits now calling it the best job.
The program is undeniably better because of Les's tenure, all political turmoil aside.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:50 pm to south bama tiger
Saban brought LSU to heights it hadn't seen in 40 plus years. The program was a disaster when Saban got here. He built a top 5 program from out of the gutters. Now I give Miles credit for keeping it at the high level that it had become, up until 1/9. After that we have been mediocre compared to where we were.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:01 pm to dukke v
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Saban brought LSU to heights it hadn't seen in 40 plus years
Yes, he did a lot for the program to put it mildly. But in terms of program prestige and how coaches, the media, and the public view the head coach job here, 2016 LSU > 2005 LSU.
It's therefore logical to conclude that the state of the program is better now than before Les took over.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:04 pm to south bama tiger
Sorry fat fingers it. Supposed to be an upvote
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:28 pm to dukke v
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The program was a disaster when Saban got here.
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He built a top 5 program from out of the gutters.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:30 pm to Topwater Trout
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No
How many 10 win seasons did LSU have from 2000 to 2004 and many since 05? How many Top 10 ranking did LSU have from 2000 to 2004 and how many since? What was the LSU winning % from 2000 to 2004 and what has it been since 05? How many SEC teams won titles from 2000 to 2004 and how many have won titles since 05? From 2000 to 2004 LSU ranked 6th national for wins and 2nd in the SEC for wins. From 2005 LSU has ranked 3rd national for wins and 1st in the SEC.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:36 pm to dukke v
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Well said.... I like miles but facts are facts....
agreed.
And don't you just love it when people downvote a post filled only with facts.
smh
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