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re: Sportscenter "Maybe Tom Herman should have taken that job in Baton Rouge"

Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:52 pm to
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Oh and he won the Broyles award, that's more impressive than being the only offensive finalist last season.


Funny how all we've heard from Ree is about Canada being a finalist huh? But herman actually winning it means nothing.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Cherry picking stats doesn't make you right. It just makes you agenda driven rather than objective.


Agenda rather than objective?

Herman is 4-4 in his last 8 games. Cherry picking or not 4-4 with more talented teams than the ones he lost to is not good. Going from the #6 ranked team in the nation to unranked is not good. Regardless of whether it is agenda or objective driven I'm just very glad he is at Texas.

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:47 pm to
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Funny how all we've heard from Ree is about Canada being a finalist huh? But herman actually winning it means nothing.


I never said that. This is the first time I have even heard that he won it.

So a Broyles Award winning OC gained 303 total yards in a 38-16 loss to a 23 point dog SMU?

And gained 287 total yards against Tulane?

DAMN !!! I bet the other finalists that year that didn't win are either laughing their butts off or are very pissed.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13316 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:49 pm to
How much did Texas pony up for Herman's contract again?
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:50 pm to
Things really haven't been the same in Austin since Darrell Royal retired. They have had their spurts, but nothing consistent. Given the fan and political environment down there, I am not even sure Royal could make it these days. That said, he did have some arse kicking teams when he was HC.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 3:55 pm to
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What do you mean? Be specific.



What I mean is, your making generalizations that you're simply pulling out of your azz because you're still pissed that CEO is our HC.

You have absolutely no way of knowing how either of these guys will finish their careers, but here you are, passively aggressively getting your digs in at O.....just so you can say "I told you so."

#pathetic
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 3:57 pm to
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Herman is 4-4 in his last 8 games. Cherry picking or not 4-4 with more talented teams than the ones he lost to is not good. Going from the #6 ranked team in the nation to unranked is not good. Regardless of whether it is agenda or objective driven I'm just very glad he is at Texas.

That's the problem with coaches who have a gimmick.

If other teams figure the gimmick out, some of them don't have a 2nd gimmick.

I'm not saying Herman isn't a good coach. That would be silly. But, I am saying he doesn't have enough of a track record as an HC to say definitively he can run a program.

And yeah. Losing to teams you completely outman is really unacceptable.
Posted by Hiyoka
Tokyo
Member since Oct 2008
1730 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:58 pm to
Haaa...what a clown. No way he makes it big there...just like I knew Les was a retard when he called a timeout after our defense got a late game int in his first game
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:39 pm to
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That's the problem with coaches who have a gimmick.


I recorded his press conference on the Longhorn Network and am watching it now. His demands that the media not tweet during press conferences and players, parents and family not tweet about the program works. The media is throwing softballs but it is SO obvious he is in over his head.

Within the first few minutes he said "you can't fire people from their jobs" then he corrected himself and said you can't fire "players from their jobs". He has EVERYONE on edge now. He also said you can't hit the panic button and they aren't changing because of one hiccup. GOOD, I hope you stay with the shite that lost to Maryland, Navy, SMU and Memphis forever. It's obvious it works.

They say the smartest people are the closest to being absolutely bat shite crazy. This guy is there. I hope the players aren't watching this shite or UT may never recover watching this psycho.

He's well hydrated though. That is a water drinkin MF'er. He did say he is there for the long-haul, that's a good thing. He's happy it was a somber place the day after losing to Maryland. Like he didn't realize the somber mood was because of his and his high school staff's shitty coaching.

Great stuff !!!
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:52 pm to
Tom Herman has a binder also. His binder told him to go for 4th down on 4 different occasions. They have a dark green, green, yellow and red in his binder. But, the binder said he should do it 4 times and the binder was wrong.

I'm setting this up as a series to record. Very entertaining. He may pull a gun and start shooting people if they lose again - "I TOLD YOU NOT TO TWEET, BAM, BAM, BAM".
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:08 pm to
Someone asked a question and he said you'll never get me to throw a player or coach under the bus !!!

His binder told him to go on 4th down on 4 occasions with the worst play call ever from the 5 yard line and going for 2 early in the game. But, he won't throw anybody under the bus.

He and his binder should be thrown under the bus for that bullshite. He doesn't even see it. He was perfect and the coaches and players were to blame for that ridiculous shite BUT he won't throw THEM under the bus. Classic shite right here.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:20 pm to
Mentioning the fans throwing stuff on the field. He says hopefully they (coaching staff) and OFFICIALS won't give them reason to.

The officials??? I don't remember one bad call in that game. The BAD calls were at least 6 bone-headed coaching decisions.

He thinks UT is on their way. He thinks they will show it this week against San Jose State - Ha Ha Ha.

Now they weren't outmanned - but he's not going to throw the players under the bus. This guy is ALL OVER.

"The decisions ultimately go through me, you're never going to get me to throw someone under the bus. I thought about it and it should be one singular message, but right now the message needs to be - long pause - FROM ME". He's still fricking with the media.

this is a well hydrated person. He gulps when he drinks and drinks a lot. If he drinks alcohol he is probably well buzzed in 2 minutes or less.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63842 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:57 pm to
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What I mean is, your making generalizations that you're simply pulling out of your azz because you're still pissed that CEO is our HC.

You have absolutely no way of knowing how either of these guys will finish their careers, but here you are, passively aggressively getting your digs in at O.....just so you can say "I told you so."

#pathetic


Pathetic response. I've already addressed your concerns.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63842 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:06 pm to
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I'm not saying Herman isn't a good coach. That would be silly. But, I am saying he doesn't have enough of a track record as an HC to say definitively he can run a program.


But O does. You people are pathetic and silly.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:33 pm to
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But O does. You people are pathetic and silly.


You are on an LSU message board taking up for an idiot coach who just lost to a 18.5 dog who had less talent and are calling LSU fans pathetic?

You are about as idiotic and as big a JOKE as the ridiculous UT press conference I just watched.

This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63842 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:49 pm to
I had hoped that LSU fans were at least somewhat realistic and logical. I'm disappointed that my assessment was apparently incorrect.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:55 pm to
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I had hoped that LSU fans were at least somewhat realistic and logical. I'm disappointed that my assessment was apparently incorrect.


Being realistic and logical is NOT being happy that the idiot coaching UT is not at LSU?

If wanting Herman at LSU is realistic and logical, I don't EVER want to be either. They can have the moron whose ranked teams with more talent loses to unranked teams with less talent on a consistent basis and did so just two days ago.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18741 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 8:20 pm to
Ha...let's evaluate in 3 years not after one game. But such is the nature of our society today.

I sincerely hope he can say the same at that time.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:45 pm to
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Being realistic and logical


Are concepts beyond your understanding


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the moron whose ranked teams with more talent loses to unranked teams with less talent on a consistent basis and did so just two days ago


He's 22-5 in 2 seasons and 1 game. That's an .815 winning percentage. You are creaming over O going 11-5 as an IHC a .688 wp. Of Herman's 22 wins, 3 were over teams with more talent (and the talent gap between FSU, OU and UH is greater than the gap between UH and other AAC teams, I do not expect you to understand the difference). So if we assume he had more talent than the other 22 that's 19 wins and 5 losses over teams he should beat and 3 over teams he shouldn't. So do tell how 5 losses over 2+ seasons is "consistently" losing?

Anyway you cut it his resume is vastly superior to the coach we hired yet you consider it logical to prefer the coach that has done way worse.

This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 10:16 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:12 pm to
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But, I am saying he doesn't have enough of a track record as an HC to say definitively he can run a program


That's fair and I agree, though saying what he has is a "gimmick" is flatly wrong. The offense he runs is pretty common place in CFB for over a decade, though it is understandable that LSU fans don't recognize a functioning offense

quote:

And yeah. Losing to teams you completely outman is really unacceptable.

Define completely out man? LSU has more talent than Kentucky we don't have them completely out manned imo. Herman's 4 loses in 2 years at UH were all to teams in his conference, the worst was SMU who finished 5-7, UConn finished 6-7 after losing their bowl. Navy and Memphis had winning records, Navy has had 12 winning season in 13 years so clearly they can compete against their peers, which UH is, even if their recruiting classes don't rank as high. UH was a -14 vs Navy that's basically the same as LSU over Florida last year FYI and -5.5 over Memphis, hardly a team they had completely out manned.

You are correct that Herman doesn't have enough of a track record to fully evaluate and i get it if someone thinks he was too inexperienced for LSU. But the picture Ree paints is is not accurate and based purely on bias and a complete lack of understanding about football.
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