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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:39 am to tandrews37
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:39 am to tandrews37
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it had 3 teams, one of which was there one time.
SEC West has been the dominant division in the most dominant conference in college football since 2009.
You can pick a random season where it fell short, you can object to it because it doesn't fit your narrative, but it's 100% true.
Auburn has been twice, Alabama 8 times, LSU once in that period.
From 2005-2008, only one SEC West team played in the NCG. During that period, there was no A&M and the West was not dominant over the East.
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Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:41 am to tandrews37
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no, they do.
they only don't when people don't want them to. but they do. make no mistake about it. Stars matter
I don't understand why you can't be excited for whoever the coaches think highly enough to make an offer too. And yes if a poster is running down a 3 star recruit there's usually somebody that will step up and defend the prospective player and possibly the coaches. It doesn't make them a hypocrite. It just means that there's more to recruiting than signing 5 star recruits.
My question is do people here expect or think that Ed and his staff are missing on any 5 star recruits at this time?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
Its no use the same people who say you can’t dispute facts dispute the facts 
I compared the sec from 2005 to 2017 and then even asked which year was the conference better and none of them will answer the question because they know they will look retarded saying 2005 was tougher
I compared the sec from 2005 to 2017 and then even asked which year was the conference better and none of them will answer the question because they know they will look retarded saying 2005 was tougher
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:43 am to Rickdaddy4188
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miles resume prior to coming to lsu is better than ed orgeron's resume now.
Who besides you gives a frick?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:43 am to Topwater Trout
I and others have said multiple times that the SEC was better in 2005 and produced numerous facts in support of the position.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:44 am to GeauxTigerTM
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What is more odd would be to suddenly stop disliking a person because they decide to wear the same color polo shirt I do. Or are you suggesting you'd turn off your dislike for a person who had earned it simply because he allied himself with your favorite team? Seems...I don't know...shallow
What seems shallow to me is disliking someone that has never done anything to you personally but that's just me. Unless Ed's fricking your boyfriend then you may have a point.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:46 am to GeauxTigerTM
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I'm always honest. Lying to make a point on a message board is probably the most pathetic thing done here.
Seems like a common sense thing to me, but doesn't seem so common sense to some I guess. The only thing more pathetic that I can think of is an alter. Imagine taking the time to create another account to say something that you're too scared to say under your other username. Then, you have to keep the two seperate in your head when you're posting. Too much effort for me.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:50 am to Damone
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Calling O's interim record at LSU "good" is a big stretch.
it was bad? taking over a team that was 2-2 and not losing the team was a bad job?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:50 am to bencoleman
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Unless Ed's fricking your boyfriend then you may have a point.
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bencoleman
What a disgusting thing to say ben. You're a fricking hypocrite.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:52 am to Damone
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I and others have said multiple times that the SEC was better in 2005 and produced numerous facts in support of the position.
so you're doubling down on being stupid?
2005=no teams in top 5
2017=3 teams in top 4
yeh the sec was tougher in 2005...if you're a complete moron
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:53 am to Rickdaddy4188
What a loser
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:57 am to p&g
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What a loser
You got him pegged.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:01 pm to TigerLunatik
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Seems like a common sense thing to me, but doesn't seem so common sense to some I guess.
Agreed. I obviously think I'm correct in my points of view, and I enjoy debating them. But I don't need to be right so badly that I'll abandon being an honest player to "win" some debate. If you had to cheat to win, what did you win?
And if I'm shown to be wrong? I'll admit it. I have on occasion. Or worse, if I run out some stat or am wrong about something and I'm shown that I was incorrect, I'll gladly own it. Seems easy enough, right?
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The only thing more pathetic that I can think of is an alter. Imagine taking the time to create another account to say something that you're too scared to say under your other username. Then, you have to keep the two seperate in your head when you're posting. Too much effort for me.
Never understood the idea of an alter. Long LONG ago most everyone knew my actual name on the old purple board. Most of us did. When I opened an account here back in 2006, I kept my old handle. Well, I opened an account under the old name, GeauxTiger, but somehow could no longer log in under it and soon had to open a new one with the TM added. but I've used that handle on LSU message boards since 1999. I actually enjoy knowing that if you liked or disliked something I said, you'd be able to link those beliefs to me...
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:08 pm to Topwater Trout
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2005=no teams in top 5
2005 AP poll: LSU finished #6, Bama was #8 and Georgia was #10. Five SEC teams in the Top 25. LSU played all of those teams.
2005 Coaches Poll: LSU at #5, Bama at 8, Georgia at 10. LSU played all of those teams.
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2017=3 teams in top 4
2017 AP poll: Bama and Georgia at 1-2, Auburn at 10. Five total SEC teams in the top 25.
2017 Coaches Poll: Bama and Georgia at 1-2. Five total SEC teams in the top 25.
LSU didn't even play Georgia in 2017, it's nice that you're giving so much weight to a team that LSU didn't even play.
Any thoughts on the fact that four of LSU's opponents in 2017 fired their coached during or after the season, while none happened in 2005?
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Auburn has been twice, Alabama 8 times, LSU once in that period.
thats three teams.
Thanks again for agreeing with me
. You are infinitely more pleasant to interact with this way!Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:09 pm to Topwater Trout
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it was bad?
Are those the only two choices? Good or bad?
How about just fine?
People seem to forget, but that team was loaded and started the season ranked 5th. Let'e not pretend the team was reeling.
As for how the rest of the season played out...did it play out much differently than anyone would have expected it would have had Miles stuck around? We trounced Missouri and Southern Miss, beat Ole Miss soundly, got shut out by BAMA, beat Arkansas badly, lost on the road to UF, then beat A&M.
In other words, he beat the team were were supposed to beat, and lost to the 2 we were most likely to. Exactly what would have enraged fans about Miles.
The only way that looks "good" is if you assume he'd have gone 4-0 to start the season...which is just an assumption. Otherwise, he likely finished the season the EXACT way Miles would have. Which is WHY Alleva made the move then, because he knew that Miles would likely skate through the rest of the schedule like that and would be harder to fire at 8-4.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:11 pm to Topwater Trout
Taking over a team and getting blanked by Bama and losing to a pathetic UF team is not good.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:11 pm to tandrews37
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thats three teams.
Can you find me another division that's had 3 teams in 10 championships in 10 years?
You know, the SEC West has represented 10 times since 2009
How many times before?
TIA.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:12 pm to bencoleman
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I don't understand why you can't be excited for whoever the coaches think highly enough to make an offer too. And yes if a poster is running down a 3 star recruit there's usually somebody that will step up and defend the prospective player and possibly the coaches. It doesn't make them a hypocrite. It just means that there's more to recruiting than signing 5 star recruits.
My question is do people here expect or think that Ed and his staff are missing on any 5 star recruits at this time?
I get what you are saying. I don't expect people to start firing up the torches and buying up pitchforks every time a 3* recruits.
But I don't think we need to throw a ticker tape parade just because the guy who was sold to LSU fans as being really good at recruiting is recruiting really well. He literally had a book written about his recruiting prowess by Bruce Feldman. No one has ever questioned whether or not O is a good recruiter.
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I don't understand why you can't be excited for whoever the coaches think highly enough to make an offer too.
I am.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:14 pm to Damone
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2005 Coaches Poll: LSU at #5, Bama at 8, Georgia at 10. LSU played all of those teams.
Both
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2017 Coaches Poll: Bama and Georgia at 1-2. Five total SEC teams in the top 25.
LSU didn't even play Georgia in 2017.
Why do you leave out Auburn? I know why but leaving out "facts" (bama & auburn 2017 trump bama and UGA 2005)to make your argument look stronger is deceitful...basically lying.
The SEC was tougher in 2017 than it was in 2005
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