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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America

Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:07 am to
ah..... the old caught being a liar.


it just seems like i have a limited vocabulary to you since your one and only consistent stance is defending O.

when thats your only stance on here, youre gonna get the same factual replies.
posters that use facts to back up their opinions dont need to change their opinions.
you change your opinions on the reg because your only goal is to gargle O's nuts.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:08 am to
quote:

I don't understand why anyone would dislike an LSU coach...


because for years he recruited against LSU and infamously got Joe McKnight (RIP) to go to USC.

he throws temper tantrums that have resulted in arrests and protective orders.

He tried to fight a reporter at Ole Miss.

Hell, he got pretty damn testy during his radio show (the one he gets paid 6 figures to do 13 radio call in shows a year) after the Troy loss.


I support the LSU coach, but there's a lot of reasons not to like the man, Ed Orgeron.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:08 am to
quote:

you think the sec was more competitive in 2005 than it is in 2017?

Yes. In 2017, LSU played four SEC teams who fired their coach during or after the season.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:08 am to
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you think the sec was more competitive in 2005 than it is in 2017?


It absolutely wasn't

The SEC West has been a bear since roughly 2009.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:09 am to
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He doesn't have to prove it. Everybody already knows what you do here.

so no proof.
literally the on the only people saying it are you and rodger. every poster you disagree with on here about O calls you a liar. i have evidence of both of you being liars. stop lying ben.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:10 am to
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It absolutely wasn't

The SEC West has been a bear since roughly 2009.




In Orgeron's 2nd season the SEC West had a losing record against the East for the first time in a decade.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39222 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:10 am to
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you think the sec was more competitive in 2005 than it is in 2017?


How many coaches in the West lost their job in 2017?

shite, Gus was getting fired if he didn’t upset Alabama
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:10 am to
quote:

It absolutely wasn't

Based on what? Posters have been providing stats and facts for why it was, maybe you can do the same for the converse position.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:11 am to
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In Orgeron's 2nd season the SEC West had a losing record against the East for the first time in a decade.


Decade = 10 years

You're welcome.

the SEC West has been better in general since 2008-2009. Particularly at the top.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 11:13 am
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:12 am to
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I think 2019 is a make or break season more than people realize.


I think people are keenly aware. If not they haven't been paying attention. For all of the gripes against Alleva, he set the wheels into motion ironically enough. At the end of the 2019 football season, O's buyout will be $7,500,000.00. If he is 10-2, he will be fine. but what happens if O doesn't win the west or make the playoffs in 2019 or 2020?

That buyout becomes a very affordable $4 million after 2020.

Of course this is all moot with a good showing this season. but another 3 loss season this year, and 2020 isn't make or break, it's coaching for your life.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:12 am to
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Rick, maybe I just take keeping my word as a man a little too sensitive, but all of this calling people liars to me is a bad look. IMO that's a pretty serious allegation on someone's character. I'm not directing that at you, but that's just my general outlook on day to day life



As usual. just like the other guy. they're totally tone deaf. Can't see their own bullshite. I don't like being called a liar and I certainly don't like calling people a liar. Especially when it concerns inconsequential shite like is being discussed here on a daily basis. The guy that you responded to makes unsubstantiated claims on a daily basis. He sees nothing wrong with it so don't ever expect him to change his behavior.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 11:14 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:13 am to
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Decade = 10 years


2009-2018 = 10 years.



quote:

the SEC West has been better in general since 2008-2009. Particularly at the top.


Not in 2018. So, 1st time IN A DECADE.

Thanks for playing Roger.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 11:14 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:14 am to
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absolutely wasn't 

The SEC West has been a bear since roughly 2009.









the west winner in 2017 finished with 4 losses.

6 of the 7 west teams in 2017 finished with at least 4 losses.


holy shite
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 11:21 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108824 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:14 am to
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he throws temper tantrums that have resulted in arrests and protective orders.

He tried to fight a reporter at Ole Miss.

All of this was quite a long time ago.
quote:

there's a lot of reasons not to like the man, Ed Orgeron.

He seems to have overcome the issues that you listed that you didn't like about him that seemed to stem from anger problems mostly and I believe he also had issues with alcohol. Speaking as a recovering addict and someone that has overcome serious anger issues, the idea that he had overcome these things should be a reason to like the Ed Orgeron the man. That takes years and years of hard work to change. It doesn't just happen overnight because someone wants it to. It's one of the reasons I would really like to see him be successful in whatever he does.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:14 am to
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Based on what? Posters have been providing stats and facts for why it was, maybe you can do the same for the converse position
Do NOT bring stats and LOGIC into these discussions. The fluffers hate that
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:14 am to
lol.

Man, these guys love to contradict themselves.

::3 star JUCO DL commits::

"I TRUST THE COACHES MORE THAN THE RANKINGS"

::2 4 star DL commit days later::

"WOOOO frick YEAH ED! WHERE ARE THE HATERS NOW WHO SAID O CAN'T GET TOP TALENT HERE?!?"

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:15 am to
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just like the other guy. they're totally tone deaf. Can't see their own bullshite.


he isnt siding with you idiot. he is saying calling someone a liar is serious. thats why i have EVIDENCE of you being a fricking liar ben.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108824 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:17 am to
There has been a lot of contradiction by people when it comes to the recruiting rankings. Coach O himself said that he trusts his rankings over the services then turned around and said that we signed the #1 WR class. It's part of selling the program. No biggie IMO.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:17 am to
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Man, these guys love to contradict themselves. 

::3 star JUCO DL commits:: 

"I TRUST THE COACHES MORE THAN THE RANKINGS" 

::2 4 star DL commit days later:: 

"WOOOO frick YEAH ED! WHERE ARE THE HATERS NOW WHO SAID O CAN'T GET TOP TALENT HERE?!?"



exactly......


ben telling a poster to stop being a star gazer and then IMMEDIATELY touting a team ranking made up of ONLY star rankings.

its hard not being a hypocrite when your only stance is putting O in a positive light with your opinions.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:17 am to
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he isnt siding with you idiot



I never said he was siding with me you brain damaged frick. fricking retard.
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