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re: Spencer Ware not in the same class as Trent Richardson
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:55 pm to Rohan2Reed
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:55 pm to Rohan2Reed
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sorry, but if you go look at the numbers.. he's kind of right.
I disagree. TR is very good, and runs behind an outstanding O-line. Ware is also very good and running behind an inferior O-line. Yes, TR is "better" but not "in a different class".
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:56 pm to Cajun Revolution
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Trent Richardson is more proven than Spencer Ware. That's a fact you're gonna have to deal with.
Also a year older so not surprising
Ware and Richardson are different types of backs anyway
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:56 pm to slutiger5
the scary thing about Richardson is that he is proving that even Ingram is not in the same class. Richardson is every bit as good as everyone thought he was when he was backing up Ingram. He very rarely goes down on first contact, makes people miss, and can out run you when given the chance.
Trent Richardson is the best RB in the NCAA since Adrian Peterson, IMO.
Trent Richardson is the best RB in the NCAA since Adrian Peterson, IMO.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:56 pm to Cajun Revolution
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Trent Richardson is more proven than Spencer Ware. That's a fact you're gonna have to deal with.
Ok. I acknowledge it. I even stated that Richardson may be a better back. But that doesn't put them in a "different class."
Also, Richardson is runnign behind a better oline that hasn't suffered a rash of injuries this season. Does that matter?
No one is claiming that Richardson is anything less than impressive, but the adulation only goes so far. Ware isn't a scrub.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:57 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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AND, if I got 3rd and 2, and HAVE to have a first down, and all my qb's arms are broke, so I can't throw it, and I gotta choice between 3 and 11, I'ma give the ball the 11.
How r u gonna hand it off??
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:57 pm to The312
Idk about all that but Ware was knocking some heads around against Florida.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:58 pm to EPORE
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and running behind an inferior O-line.
is this the consensus now? why does it change every week?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:59 pm to horndog
well, that will make some good bulletin board material for SW11...thanks CBS...
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:00 pm to EPORE
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TR is very good, and runs behind an outstanding O-line. Ware is also very good and running behind an inferior O-line. Yes, TR is "better" but not "in a different class".
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:00 pm to Lester Earl
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and running behind an inferior O-line.
is this the consensus now? why does it change every week?
Set aside the talent issue. Continuity is hugely important for the development of an o-line. LSU has been afflicted by serious o-line injuries all season long. Bama hasn't. I'd like to see how our starting oline could do if they hod the opportunity to play three or four games consecutively with one another.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:02 pm to The312
quote:agreed.
Gary Danielson stated that Ware "wasn't in the same class" as Richardson.
and anyone without purple and gold glasses would as well. Ware just doesn't possess the same breakaway speed as TR, and thats what sets him apart
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:02 pm to The312
Danielson has the ability to see a lot of football film and review a lot of games. I'm sure he is pretty skilled on his viewpoints.
I have never been that impressed with our running game under Miles. We have yet to play a really strong run D like Bama. Three yards and a cloud seems to be our mantra rather then 60 yard bursts.
There is nothing wrong with that and Miles record vindicates his choice of running backs but it seems he prefers the strong rather then scat back. Sheppard is the fast one but doesn't appear to have the strength.
I have never been that impressed with our running game under Miles. We have yet to play a really strong run D like Bama. Three yards and a cloud seems to be our mantra rather then 60 yard bursts.
There is nothing wrong with that and Miles record vindicates his choice of running backs but it seems he prefers the strong rather then scat back. Sheppard is the fast one but doesn't appear to have the strength.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:04 pm to spslayto
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I heard that too. But I take everything Danielson and Verne say with a grain of salt.
verne needs to stick to golf, but danielson might the best in the business. dude knows what he's talking about. i'll never understand the hate some people have for him. it's as if because he points out flaws in lsu and positives for another team, somehow he's wrong. those same people conveniently ignore when he gushes about lsu in other respects. and ware isn't in the same class as TR. he's just not, there might not be another back in the country that is. that's not to say ware isn't a great back, but TR is arguably the best in the country and will more than likely be a top 5 nfl draft pick
This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:06 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Ingram
looked like a douche ystdy with that taunting penalty,
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:06 pm to Touchdowns4LSU
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There is nothing wrong with that and Miles record vindicates his choice of running backs but it seems he prefers the strong rather then scat back. Sheppard is the fast one but doesn't appear to have the strength.
Oh ur so rt, recruiting guys like holliday, shepard, and gore.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:07 pm to The312
Richardson is a once in 10 year talent. Ware has a chance to be very special,too. Richardson is a junior and Ware is a soph.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:08 pm to The312
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Continuity is hugely important for the development of an o-line.
4 of 5 LSU lineman (Hurst, FAulk, Longeran, Blackwell) have started all 6 games. And Tbob has started 4 of 6.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:08 pm to The312
i think our OL has experienced more trouble this year than bama's; josh D. out, moving blackwell, lonerhan (sp) and hebert missing time. because of that we have been a bit inconsistent (still good though). even so, i would be hard pressed to select between the two. i like wares ability to catch passes and run routes. if ware was running behind this years OL at bama his stats would be better than they are and principally because of the non-injury sitution at bama. who knows what will happen by nov. 5th however.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:09 pm to The312
Hate to break it to you all, but he's right.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:09 pm to LSU GrandDad
They are indeed in different classes. Richardson is a Junior, while Ware is a sophomore.
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