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re: Sources: Javonte Smart will not play tonight.

Posted on 3/9/19 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 1:45 pm to
Everyone ragging on Alleva, what are y’all thoughts gonna be if Smart and his mom was indeed paid to come to LSU?

Let’s be honest, we know Wade cheats. He pulled in a top 5 class after LSU had gone 18-15

He got a commit from Waters out of Connecticut late in the game when LSU had never even been mentioned in his recruitment pre wade.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19693 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 1:55 pm to
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Everyone ragging on Alleva, what are y’all thoughts gonna be if Smart and his mom was indeed paid to come to LSU? Let’s be honest, we know Wade cheats. He pulled in a top 5 class after LSU had gone 18-15 He got a commit from Waters out of Connecticut late in the game when LSU had never even been mentioned in his recruitment pre wade.
yea, his recruiting was great, but almost too good. Reminded me a bit of Ole Miss football that year they signed 5* s from all over the country.

I knew Wade was a great recruiter, but he immediately got a 5* from NJ, a 5* from Florida, and 4* s from Connecticut, Florida, and of course Baton Rouge. If i’m being honest, that raised a red flag. It was just too good, too fast.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28941 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 1:55 pm to
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That statement makes ZERO sense. It’s Alot of words that say nothing. Smart and his family are cooperating....then you’ve had a conversation with him. Depending on how that went you either stand by him and play him or declare him suspended. “Caution” is simply optics. It means nothing and accomplishes nothing.


This is a CYA statement to fans not to go poking the Smart family because they can take us all down if they wanted.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8661 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 1:59 pm to
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Everyone ragging on Alleva, what are y’all thoughts gonna be if Smart and his mom was indeed paid to come to LSU?

Let’s be honest, we know Wade cheats. He pulled in a top 5 class after LSU had gone 18-15

He got a commit from Waters out of Connecticut late in the game when LSU had never even been mentioned in his recruitment pre wade.


That it's really unfortunate he got caught and didn't use a bagman/booster network like the bluebloods do. You can tell from his conversation on the wiretap that there's clearly an established market he's participating in. He's not some rogue coach who got the novel idea to start operating this way. Probably every major program, and some mid-majors, do some version of this. Just bad luck with the FBI wiretap
Posted by ShreveportTiger1987
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2014
5494 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:06 pm to
fricking BS
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:14 pm to
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yea, his recruiting was great, but almost too good. Reminded me a bit of Ole Miss football that year they signed 5* s from all over the country. 

I knew Wade was a great recruiter, but he immediately got a 5* from NJ, a 5* from Florida, and 4* s from Connecticut, Florida, and of course Baton Rouge. If i’m being honest, that raised a red flag. It was just too good, too fast.


I mean I know this has been said before but there are other explanations for those commitments. Waters was committed to Georgetown and changed after a coaching change. Reid's GF played for LSU and he developed a good relationship with Smart over camps and AAU. Williams had legal trouble that threatened his career. Days was a lower level 4 star prospect so LSU made sense for him. And Smart is from BR and was most strongly considering Kentucky who signed two PGs ranked higher than him (Hagans and Quickly) in addition to having former McDs All American Quade Green back as well. I don't think that set off TOO many alarms. Honestly I think the Ben Simmons signing was much more alarming considering LSU just never seems to be in the running for the consensus #1 player in basketball.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17299 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:15 pm to
Why stop there Joe? Let's just forfeit the rest of the season you pussy.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7926 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:17 pm to
Our compliance department and AD continues to work against LSU in order to get Attaboys from the NCAA and the media. It has been proven over and over that non-cooperation is the way to go. These people put the interests of the NCAA, SEC, and most importantly themselves before LSU’s, its players, and coaches. Clean the house.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 2:20 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85408 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:18 pm to
Be prepared to turn down the invite too. frick this clown show of adminstration.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293486 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:18 pm to
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. If i’m being honest, that raised a red flag.


yeah, everyone knew, but you can't leave a trail.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11822 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:19 pm to
If Joe Alleva and King got hit by cars I would be happy.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85408 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

knew Wade was a great recruiter, but he immediately got a 5* from NJ, a 5* from Florida, and 4* s from Connecticut, Florida, and of course Baton Rouge. If i’m being honest, that raised a red flag. It was just too good, too fast


And Johnny Jones was clean? He pulled talent too. He just couldn't win shite with it.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:22 pm to
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scum like Joe Alleva


So the coach and player that cheated are heroes and the AD trying to do the right thing is scum. I really despise our fan base.

All of you should be pissed at Wade for being an idiot, not Alleva. Trust there are plenty of things Joe has done that pisses me off. This isn’t one of them. He is doing the right thing.

Will the outcome be any different if he just rolled with it? Maybe not, but at what point does integrity come in to play. LSU fans are quick to judge other schools for their dirty ways, but you want LSU to do the same.

I’ll be out there tonight cheering on the tigers and wondering what could’ve been if Wade was smarter.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17299 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:24 pm to
Written by lawyers. It's supposed to say nothing.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15765 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:27 pm to
If I'm Will Wade, I resign the day after LSU's season ends, and if I'm Javonte I transfer the moment I could. If I'm those two guys, I'm not coaching or playing for an administration that has shown an unwillingness to go to bat for me or have my back. They've left me out in the rain once and they'll do it again. They deserve better.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85408 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:29 pm to
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All of you should be pissed at Wade for being an idiot, not Alleva. Trust there are plenty of things Joe has done that pisses me off. This isn’t one of them. He is doing the right thing.


How is this the right thing? The program is fudged either way. Just let it play out and let LSU frick other teams who cheat.

Winning 1 legit regular season game means nothing. Let Wade and smart ride it out and hope we knock some blue bloods out of the tourney.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:30 pm to
They put their self in that situation, not the administration. Typical way of the world blame everyone else when you frick up.

And I promise Wade won’t be coaching anywhere anytime soon. Smart probably won’t be an to play anywhere either.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:34 pm to
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How is this the right thing?


First it may help with the soon to happen NCAA investigation.
Second it will prevent the possible lack of institutional control
And last and most importantly it’s the morally right thing to do. With all the evidence there is against Wade it would be morally wrong to move forward as if it wasn’t there. Let’s get our head out the sand the wire taps are extremely damaging.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85408 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:35 pm to
Thanks for the post, but that's fricking sad. Ok, not admitting guilt, going to sit him anyway. For what? If he cheated, every game will be vacated. This one game doesn't mean shite if the rest are vacated.
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
11722 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 2:39 pm to
Your ignorance is adorable. Go look up Joe Alleva’s history with Duke and try and tell yourself he isn’t scum.
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